Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/We're off to See the Wizard

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The result of the debate was keep. Sjakkalle (Check!) 11:07, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] We're off to See the Wizard

Perpetual stub about a single song (as information about it is covered on the movie page). As it stands is only an opinion and some of the most obscure trivia one could ever dream of. Created by user with habit of creating stubs for the purpose of listing useless trivia (as is on the page now), then flooding creating a flood of incoming links. --InShaneee 15:32, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

• The number of piss-poor song stubs in wikipedia is truly staggering. Delete. Or maybe redirect. If someone wants to write a real article here I will probably change my vote. -R. fiend 16:12, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
  • OK, it's been expanded, and although it's still not a great article I'll change my vote, as promised, to weak keep. Could use more, I think. -R. fiend 04:23, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Weak keep. There are articles about far less notable songs, and this one is fairly iconic. Needs expansion, however. 23skidoo 17:25, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep because, because, because, because, becauauauase, because we have other bits from the movie with their own article too (say it quick, and it fits the music) e.g. Yellow brick road. They are faaaaaaar more notable than any pokemon creation will ever be.-Splash 22:05, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Highly notable song. Methinks it can be expanded. CanadianCaesar 23:46, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. My understanding is that the diggers at Tobruk used to sing this song but can't verify it. Nevertheless, this is a well-known song from a very well known musical and there is now a real article there. Capitalistroadster 23:55, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and Redirect Merge applicable info (sans the unmaintainable and extraneous "References in popular culture section") into The Wizard of Oz (1939 movie), redirect the namespace. Fernando Rizo 00:08, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, Oz is sufficently famous and long-lived such that individual songs are notable, and are useful as cultural references, in their own right. Xoloz 03:57, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Revolución 06:11, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with main article. Radiant_>|< 12:37, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to The Wizard of Oz (1939 movie). The song is not really notable outside of the context of the film, likely because it's so specific to the film. "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" is the only Oz song that really needs its own seperate article. That being said, if it is kept, move it to We're Off to See the Wizard --FuriousFreddy 19:06, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Freddy's right, it should be moved. -R. fiend 04:01, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  • It seems mildly arbitrary to declare that Over the Rainbow is the only Oz song of note, no? Everybody knows why you go to see the Wizard, just as everybody knows that something happens way up high (though I actually forget what, precisely). -Splash 04:19, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
    • The difference between the songs is that "Over the Rainbow" is a famous song in its own right independent of The Wizard of Oz. It won an Academy Award, became Judy Garland's signiture song, and has been covered and used in many contexts independent of the film. "We're Off to See the Wizard", on the other hand, because it is so specific to the film itself, is only used in direct, allusional, or parodical reference to The Wizard of Oz. You'll never hear someone sing "We're Off to See the Wizard" at a talent show and expect to make an impact (unless they're staging an act or medley that includes other Oz songs). For the same purpouse, "A Whole New World" from Aladdin deserves its own article (it was a #1 pop hit, and later became a popular wedding song), but "Prince Ali" and "Arabian Nights" do not. --FuriousFreddy 14:34, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

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