Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turururu

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Turururu was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete

No Google hits for Turururu Militongo, Turururu Chile or Turururu mammal. Another hoax Chilean animal? Same anon created Siripiscuipi. RickK 07:08, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)

• Delete. Hoax. Mikkalai 07:39, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Keep and follow proper cleanup procedure to determine factual basis. Contact the original author to see if they can improve it, or provide source documentation. This article was only 6 minutes old when VfD'd, and should only be deleted after some basic investigation and discussion on its talk page. -- Netoholic @ 07:44, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Just one problem with that: the same user created Siripiscuipi AND Siripescuipi; this action alone (discounting the fact that the first was created to match their erstwhile user name) raises suspicion that this is absolute bollocks. Google searches subsequently come up with zilch and although google is not foolproof, I vote to delete. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 08:19, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • What is the "proper cleanup procedure to determine factual basis"? Where is this procedure documented? Plus, I DID investigate it -- I looked for it via Google, and found no hits matching this supposed animal. Where else should I have looked? RickK 08:21, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)
  • Ignore Netoholic's words and revert his pre-emptive actions: the animal does not exist, and the article is subliterate. Geogre 12:16, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. --GRutter 09:07, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete, frankly, further posts like this from the same users should just be speedied, so as to bother Netoholic too much. Google, which is usually pretty good about basic facts such as the existence of an animal gives no hits in English that actually references an animal. Note to the next Sysop who comes across pages from this user. Follow Netoholic's ideal, Be Bold, and delete away. -Vina 09:21, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Doubtful topic, little if any useful material, in common with all other contribs from this IP so far. Andrewa 10:46, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete: The animal does not seem to have any confirmation on the web. The author removed the VfD tag and had to be reverted. From the red links on this page, I suspect the author plans more. Geogre 12:16, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • I have removed said red links in a pre-empt to stop more silliness being created. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 13:48, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Unverified article from an anon noted to have created hoax articles in the past. Average Earthman 12:52, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Everyking 13:36, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Please, next time you run over a patent nonsense, use Wikipedia:Speedy deletions. Keeping such article for 5 voting days is an insult to common sense. Mikkalai 15:40, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • I can't. The policy on speedy deletes SPECIFICALLY says that hoax articles cannot be deleted by speedy delete. I've done that in the past and have been immediately reverted, and threatened with having my sysop rights removed. RickK 23:22, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)
• Delete: fabrication. "Turururu" is used in Spanish & Portuguese to fill in song lyrics [1] [2], like "la di da" or "na na na na". This one [3] is funny: turururu turururu (read it like the "Twilight Zone" music) -- it really works! This dictionary of Chilean slang [4] says "turururu" means "craziness". I think we can forget about asking the author for verification of turururu. Wile E. Heresiarch 15:51, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete unless the contributor provides a proper scientific name for the animal before the VfD period expires. The following remarks do not reflect Wikipedia policy; they express my personal opinion and explain how I intend to vote in similar VfD discussions. Articles should meet some minimum quality level when submitted. Some burden of proof is on the submitter. In the case of an article about an animal, the submitter should take the trouble of looking up and providing the scientific name. This does not require any specialized zoological knowledge or reference material; an ordinary dictionary will do. Thus, I can state effortlessly by reference to a desk dictionary that the North American robin is Turdus migratorius and that a striped bass is Morone saxatilis. If the animal described is real, then anyone with access to a Chilean dictionary can provide the scientific name effortlessly. Therefore the request for such a name is reasonable. Once the scientific name is provided, verification that the animal really exists is effortless. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 19:11, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• I agree with Dpbsmith. If a scientific name for the animal can not provided at the end of the VfD period, delete --[[User:Allyunion|AllyUnion (Talk)]] 21:47, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Nonsense. — Gwalla | Talk 02:06, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Hoax. Antandrus 02:24, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Can anybody figure out what the link at http://www.agere.cl is trying to say and what it has to do with this article? RickK 23:31, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)
• It's a fan page for the mascot of a children's TV program. Turururu states a turururu is a mammal, but the mascot is pretty clearly a bird of some kind. Not that it matters, but it's just more BS. Sigh. Wile E. Heresiarch 02:45, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete hoax (and as several people have already said, hoaxes are not patent nonsense). Rossami 04:39, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Re: hoaxes are not patent nonsense -- I don't see the basis for this assertion. Hoaxes don't fall into any of the categories listed as not patent nonsense. As for the categories of patent nonsense, hoaxes don't fall into either of those, but patent nonsense does not claim that those two categories exhaust all possible patent nonsense. -- "Patent nonsense" just means "obvious nonsense", and an obvious hoax is obvious nonsense. One could perhaps argue that turururu is not an obvious hoax. Wile E. Heresiarch 04:54, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
• Delete: patent nonsense. As a chilean I know the animal does not exist. Turururu comes from a TV character on childrens programm. (Guruguru a giant bird that only says tururu). Jorge GG 14:00, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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