Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tu Pounamu IV

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy deleted as admitted hoax. gadfium 22:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tu Pounamu IV

Appears to be a hoax. The following discussion about it appeared on the NZ Wikipedians' notice board:

Tu Pounamu IV does not ring true. Not one of the names mentioned on the page gets a google hit, the language is unusual for an article about a Māori leader (Aboriginal, prince), Ngāti Awa do not come from Gisborne, etc. This not only needs references, it needs verification of the references. (The book is real, according to National Library catalogue, but its subject matter does not appear relevant). dramatic 09:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Totally bogus. BTW the creator of the article has made a reference to Tu Pounamu IV in Aquinas College, Tauranga, giving Grey's Polynesian Mythology as a source for the family having converted from Ringatuism to Catholicism. Grey is purely and simply a collection of traditional stories, and makes no mention of Catholicism or Ringatuism - in fact Grey, first published around 1854, predates Ringatuism which was started AFAIK by Te Kooti who was much later in the 19th C. Kahuroa 14:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

For these reasons I suggest deletion. Grutness...wha? 22:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete unless attribution of the claims made in the article is provided, and notability is further explained. Being third in line to chieftainship of an iwi does not appear to be enough. I can find no google hits for either '"Tu Pounamu IV"' or '"Jade Gray" "Ngati Awa"'-gadfium 00:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unless sources can be made. Why does the picture appear so blurry as well? bibliomaniac15 05:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• I second the deletion request. Sir-George-Grey was a 19th century governor general several erras ago. I think the author is either severly mislead or misunderstood when it comes to accuracy and citations. Johannesemmanuelle 08:11, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

There has been much debate amooung my peers at Otago as to the legitamacy of the scrutiny and investigation of wikipedia articles. This "hoax" was the created (by me and a collegue) for the purpous of the investigation of the reliability and to find out how much time it would take for wikipedian articles to be identified as hoaxes. Congradulations. it has taken a fortenight.Tu Pounamu IV is simply non existant. "Jade Gray" was a randomly selected student from the old school yearbook. Aquinas College was randomly selected as his "school". (mainly because I board in a bording house that shares the name).The picture was scanned from out of the local news paper and the image was picked because the character was the darkest most maori looking in it. (hence the blurr). so dont get your heckles up, atleast you managed to prove the reliability of wikipedia and change the minds of some of your harshest critics. GerradPier 08:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete this is really cute and all, but it's not cool to harass Wikipedia to make a point. JuJube 09:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• Well then, can we speedily delete this one now? - Axver 21:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.