Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tsubakimoto Chain Co.

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The result was Keep. Catchpole 14:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tsubakimoto Chain Co.

Wikipedia is not a directory. Only non-directory type information is that the firm was founded in 1917, but longevity does not equal notability. Emeraude 13:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Neier 13:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - listing on the Tokyo stock exchange means it satisfies WP:CORP. Just needs sources and liks to news articles to make it certain. MER-C 13:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Listing on a stock exchange satisfies WP:CORP? Are you sure? I assume you are referring to WP:CORP Criteria for companies and corporations, part 3, which says "The company's or corporation's share price is used to calculate stock market indices." In this case, the relevant index would be the Nikkei 225, which does NOT include this company. Emeraude 14:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
    • If not, change the criteria. Any criteria that allow a corner restaurant that's been reviewed in two newspapers to be notable but exclude a company that's traded on one of the world's giant stock markets would need to be changed. Fg2 08:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
      • It is your reasoning that is faulty, not the criteria. Lots of companies are traded on stock exchanges. Any criterion based upon that would be exceedingly daft. If the company is as notable as you assert it to be (without citing any sources to back up that assertion), it should be easy for you to cite sources to show that the criteria are satisfied. Uncle G 11:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
        • He didn't say "any stock exchange." He indicated the Tokyo Stock Exchange, which is an exclusive exchange like being listed on the NYSE. Not every company in the States is listed on the NYSE, nor is every company in Japan listed on the TSE. I can understand not listing every little OTC company out there, but when a company is listed in a major stock echange, that in itself makes the company notable. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 18:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep revenues of a billion dollars make it notable. Fg2 06:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep due to being mentioned in Mining Weekly. Given the type of product they provide, it is much less likely they would be the focus of too many articles. Companies (even huge ones such as this one with subsidiaries in the United States, Canada, and The Netherlands) which provide manufacturing parts don't often get press coverage. I'm beginning to think WP:CORP is a little bit deficient in that respect. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 07:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
  • It is your application, not the criteria, that is deficient. WP:CORP explictly does not restrict published works solely to press coverage. So look for things other than press coverage. Uncle G 11:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Since the only likely source of that coverage would be in industry journals and such, and since I have no access to any of those (nor any interest in them), finding any covereage not in the press is ather difficult for me. Regardless, the company is absolutely notable due to its revenues (regardless of whether it meets WP:CORP), as indicated by Fg2. So, I still say Strong Keep. Unless you want to somehow try to prove that the company is not notable with billions of yen in annual revenue... ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 18:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Here are a few links, too:
      • U.S. Tsubaki, Inc. Company Profile (a subsidiary of Tsubakimoto)
      • Motion Industries Recognizes 26 Suppliers with Operational Excellence Supplier Partnership Awards (a press release, but not from Tsubaki)
      • 椿本チエイン、米フォード向けにエンジン部品 (news in the Nihon Keizai Shimbun regarding a Ford engine featuring a Tsubakimoto drive chain)
      • Progress on a new facility (article in the Nihon Keizai Shimbun)
    • Does that make it notable enough for you? ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 18:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
    • A few additional media links mentioning the company:
      • Clarion, NGK, Tsubakimoto, Tokyo Steel: Japanese Equity Preview (Bloomberg article tracking the company's stock)
      • Expansive growth continues for consumables supplier (Another Mining Weekly about a third party using the company's laser-alignment system)
      • 220 summer jobs lined up for youths (Article about U.S. Tsubaki involvement in a local jobs program)
      • Tsubaki Corrosion Resistant DP Series Chain Lasts Twice as Long as Standard Chain and is Still Going Strong at Scottish Water (Spotlight article in Process and Control Today)
      • Tsubaki Low Noise Chain Gives the ‘Silent Treatment’ to Industrial Laundry Machines (Another spotlight article in Process and Control Today)
      • Lady Godiva Rides In Coventry City Centre Again Thanks to Tsubaki's Weather Proof PC Chain (Another spotlight article in Process and Control Today)
      • Program eyes jobs for youths (Another article about U.S. Tsubaki involvement in a local jobs program)
      • Tokyo stocks end quarter on positive note (Tsubakimoto stock being tracked) NipponBill 01:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, notable, thousands of search engine hits, also as per MER-C . Yours, Smeelgova 04:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC).

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.