Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tryst with destiny

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The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash 00:41, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tryst with destiny

This is the full text of Nehru's speech upon Indian independence. I have transwikied it to Wikisource (wikisource:Transwiki:Tryst with destiny). It is not encyclopedic, and should now be deleted. Dmcdevit·t 08:56, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep : Strongly vote for keeping this page . There exist precedences of speeches being kept in Wikipedia . Do see this. Manik Raina 09:18, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, Manik, do click on your link and discover that there are articles about the speeches, but not the full text of the speeches alone. Sdedeo 10:24, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Hi Sdedeo , Just to understand you better, are you saying that if this page contained some description and background about the speech and the text as excerpts, this page would be, in your opinion, permissible into wikipedia ? Manik Raina 12:02, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Hi Manik -- yes, precisely. Sdedeo 00:11, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, extremely notable speech, you wouln't try to delete the Gettysburg Address I hope. Kappa 13:16, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, but rewrite to describe the speech and its importance, not full text. 12.22.156.139 17:40, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. --Laura Scudder | Talk 20:07, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. notable speech, could use some bachround info though. →ubεr nεmo→ ^lóquï 23:57, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
• Description of the speech's significance and consequences should be in this article. Full text should be on Wikisource, not in the WP article. Delete transwikied text, mark for rewrite/expansion. Barno 01:35, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
• 'Strong keep as notable, but should be about the speech. As above, really. Proto t c 15:12, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - in the current form and with the current contents. Now, there is scope for this stub to grow to a potentially good article, wherein the portions of the speech may be reproduced depending on the contexts of the further edits. --Bhadani 15:36, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Had some thoughts, so I'll share them with you all. I have some objections to the rule that important speeches are okay if they are substantiated with some background information. I feel this background info is desirable and definitely helps the reader and makes the article more encyclopadeic. But the absence of this information does *not*, IMO make grounds for deletion of an article from wikipedia. This is a personal opinion and opinions differ. Do let me know what others think. Alternatives like {{attention}} or {{cleanup}} could be pursued. Do let me know what you all think. I'm new to wikipedia, please be gentle :-) Manik Raina 09:11, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
    • If all that an article contains is the text of the speech, then it should be on Wikisource, which has been designed for, and is exactly the place for information such as that (the same policy applies with lyrics, text of books, etc etc). Proto t c 15:38, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - pamri 18:06, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.