Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Samara 2
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was Delete Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 19:35, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Tony Samara
This very narrowly (and slightly questionably) survived a VfD a month or so ago, with 4 deletes and 2 weak keeps, plus the subject/author (with insufficient editing history) and his sockpuppet. As this is a pretty clear cut case of vanity, I'd like to bring it forward again. "tony samara" zen -wikipedia (the best way I could think fo to limit a search of a name that is far from unique in the world) got me 54 google hits. Earlier vote here. R. fiend 21:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- May be a copyvio of [1]. The text is quite similar. If it's vanity, though, permission may be assumed. Pburka 22:52, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- It was written by him or an employee of his organization- i've talked to them via email- so copyright isn't an issue. (however, the person did deny that they were associated with tony samara, despite their email address of "tsamara" at the samara foundation.) --Heah (talk) 00:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- delete. It is a vanity page and he's probably one of the least notable people with entries here. getting rid of "zen" and adding "samara foundation", (not +"Samara foundation" or vice versa), which will almost certainly be mentioned in any article on him, only brings us up to 171 hits on google. not that google should be the final arbiter, but 171 hits is pretty telling. I nominated the article last time, having come across it while deleting linkspam in other articles from the author and his sockpuppets. --Heah (talk) 00:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, for reasons above. -- Kjkolb 02:15, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as per Heah CLW 09:09, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep As argued in the previous vote, Tony Samara's work isn't much publicized on the Internet so using the internet to verify his notability is a bit of a catch-22 situation. It is stated in the Wikipedia guidelines that if more than 1000 people are in touch with the subject it could qualify as notable. In the case of Tony Samara, his works extends to more than 5000 people around the world who don't necessarily use the internet or are even interested in this due to the detached nature of his work from modern society.
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.
