Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tommy Gun (Green Day album)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. --Daniel Olsen 04:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tommy Gun (Green Day album)

Tommy Gun (Green Day album) (discussion|history|protect|delete|undelete|logs|links)

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Article is a tracklist and release date only for an upcoming album with no source cited for the tracklist. There's no point in having this article until a) the album is released or b) there is more concrete, verifiable information about the album. —C.Fred (talk) 04:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• Strong delete I agree with the points made above, but considering this lbum is supposed to be out in roughly 2 months surely there's something out there that can be said about this to make a real article and so the crystal ball can be used if we can see some evidence. Failing that, supposedly the track list and/or album title came from somewhere so that could be sourced, this could then be merged to the Green Day article until there is enough material for an article. And failing that, delete it. Not much info with no references on the face of it. Robovski 04:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Research comes up with nothing. Changing my vote to strong delete. Robovski 08:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Comment Per edit history, Robovski's initial recommendation was "revise, merge or delete". —C.Fred (talk) 00:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete: There are no sources anywhere about the album, the song titles, or the release date of the album. Without the sources this article could be considered a hoax. There are no sources whether they are reliable or not. There is not even a statement by the band about any information on their 8th studio album.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 04:33, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete: There are no sources. There is no viable information on any search engines. The author sourced on the Talk:Green Day page that he had a personal meeting with Billie Joe Armstrong and while that may be perfectly true, it violates the WP:NOR policy.--Jude 05:14, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete: I can't find any sources, no mentions on the Green Day site, and most sources I've come across say that Wikipedia has confirmed it. Ben W Bell talk 08:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Rewind and play that one again. "Wikipeida has confirmed it?" And there are no primary or secondary sources of reliable, fact-checked material? Hmm, a problem this is. -- saberwyn 10:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes my point exactly. I found a couple of places stating "Wikipedia has confirmed that the next album" yadda yadda yadda. Possibly someone created the Wikipedia article as a means of pushing their ideas through the Green Day community knowing many people would then see it as truthful. Ben W Bell talk 12:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
    • This source[1] is an example of what Ben W Bell may have been speaking of, and also this one[2]--Jude 14:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, WP:NOT a crystal ball, no sources cited, unverifiable. Nowhere states that they are going to release the album at all. --Terence Ong _{(C | R)} 12:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as too speuclative. Caveat: I was the deleting admin when the prod closed. youngamerican (ahoy hoy) 14:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - It's funny that an article due out in a few months by an incredibly well known and popular band doesn't show up anywhere (except for the sites that took the Wiki article as gospel). This is a prime example of how damaging a WikiRumor can be. Any admins might consider closing under WP:SNOW. →Bobby← 15:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. continued effort finds no official source - in fact the article is the source other people are using. Can we get this closed asap? Robovski 00:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as per nomination, WP:NOT Xdenizen 22:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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