Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Staniforth

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. W.marsh 18:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tom Staniforth

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Not notable as a footballer and I don';t think all people who die from drug misuse are notable either. Suggest include details in his fathers page (Gordon Staniforth) WikiGull 21:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. WikiGull 21:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination, fails WP:BIO. Qwghlm 21:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as per Qwghlm - fchd 22:35, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
• Merge into his dad's page, although that page could do with some work as the info merged from here would most likely be longer than the content on the page's actual subject ChrisTheDude 08:53, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 14:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep To quote WP:BIO: "Articles about first team squad members who have not made a first team appearance may also be appropriate, but only if the individual is at a club of sufficient stature that most members of its squad are worthy of articles.". Any player to have stepped onto the pitch for Sheffield Wednesday F.C. passes WP:BIO... therefore this player passes the notability criteria, even though he never got off the bench. --Dweller 15:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Surely that covers current squad members, who are still an active part of the club (as per the present tense in "the individual is at a club...."), not random blokes from several years back whose career highlight was being an unused sub....? ChrisTheDude 15:31, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Interesting reply, thanks. I don't believe it's clear that that is the case . If it were, I'd certainly expect the language to include the word "yet" between "have not" and "made a first team appearance". Under the current language, it seems to be inclusive of current and former. --Dweller 15:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
      • NB I have posted at WT:BIO in an effort to correct this ambiguity one way or the other, so that future similar AfDs can have a clearer steer from policy. --Dweller 11:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• Merge with his father's article. -- Bpmullins | Talk 16:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I found it interesting and informative. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep - this doesn't fail WP:BIO, Sheffield Wednesday F.C. first team squad member unless ChrisTheDude's interpretation of "current" is correct. It's certainly ambiguous. He does gain some additional notability from his untimely demise. However, the article does lack WP:RS and needs some to pass WP:V. It shouldn't be too difficult to provide some. The Rambling Man 10:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to Gordon Staniforth. Catchpole 10:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - the relevant information is in his father's article. HornetMike 19:28, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: reference it, and then we'll see if the references support notability. Everyking 07:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unless sourced. No objection to redirect, however not sure what should be merged - so far we don't have any sources. Addhoc 13:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: I added references to his father's page. WikiGull 15:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Gordon Staniforth, I seem to remember his death being mentioned on the News Kingjamie 18:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

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