Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tired and emotional
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was nomination withdrawn: the Heymann Standard at work. Thanks to Dhartung for his efforts on this. Chick Bowen 17:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tired and emotional
This article has several problems. Chief among them is that it does not cite its sources and relies on original research. Since it refers to popular usage its assertion of notability is not verifiable. Most importantly, there are living persons issues, since it implies an accusation of drunkenness. It has been transwikied to Wiktionary, but I doubt much of this material will be used there for the same reasons. Chick Bowen 03:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Weak Delete per nom, which is a shame since it's kind of entered popular culture. It might be possible to dig up some citations for people being described in this manner, but then there's the issue of figuring out whether it's being used euphemistically or whether the individual was really just tired and emotional. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 03:51, 24 February 2007 (UTC)- Keep now that sources have been added and the potential (which IMO is always going to be there, but there's nothing we can do about it) for a BLP violation reduced. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Keep and cleanup as there appear to be plenty of sources showing the origin from Private Eye and its currency (i.e. discussing same) as a bit of newspaper jargon (as opposed to slang, which it isn't clear it is). The phrase is included in the Oxford Dictionary of Idiom. --Dhartung | Talk 04:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Other references in which it's included: Cassell's Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins, Brewer's Dictionary of Modern Phrase & Fable. A biography of Brown was actually titled Tired and Emotional. --Dhartung | Talk 04:06, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work sourcing this. It's still on the edge as far as I'm concerned, but you've certainly made progress. I removed the section I considered a WP:BLP problem. Chick Bowen 04:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Other references in which it's included: Cassell's Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins, Brewer's Dictionary of Modern Phrase & Fable. A biography of Brown was actually titled Tired and Emotional. --Dhartung | Talk 04:06, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Now that there are some sources, the page is worthy of inclusion. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 04:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Keep The article is definitely worthy.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Keep. --JuntungWu 12:51, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
