Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Redman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 21:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tim Redman

Non-notable chess personality. I never heard of him. Being a past president of the USCF doesn't give you a free entry into Wikipedia. YechielMan 00:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete; who is this guy? -- TheGreatLlama ^{(speak to the Llama!)} 00:17, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep if sufficient other information about the man can be gleaned from somewhere. If not, merge to Presidents of the United States Chess Federation and possibly review the other names on the list. Mister.Manticore 00:30, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I think it could be strongly argued that being USCF (the governing body of chess in the United States) president makes one inherently notable, and this guy also has the distinction of being the only person to serve twice. -Elmer Clark 01:40, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and Redirect - CrazyRussian talk/email 01:40, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete and redirect are mutually exclusive. Redirecting simply involves replacing the article text with a redirect tag. NTK 03:21, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. If he has done anything significant in his capacity, then put that in the USCF article. NTK 03:21, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Agree with Elmer, president of a notable organization, only one to be elected twice. AmitDeshwar 03:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Yes, stubby but the president (only one to be chosen twice) of a notable organization is notable too). If not kept as a stub, it can be redirected without the need for deletion. Mgm|^(talk) 12:03, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep, as "keepers" above. Bubba73 (talk), 15:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

• weak keep per above, but I think the article needs to be expanded. --mathewguiver 16:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete The article has not been expanded in the two months since it was created. If someone is willing to make it as encyclopedic as the other articles (like Leroy Dubeck, George Koltanowski or Maxim Dlugy) that are not red-linked on Presidents of the United States Chess Federation, then they can recreate it. (That list should probably be on the USCF page instead of its own, IMHO.) I mean, what's next, "Presidents of the Boy Scouts" and then pages for each of them? --72.75.117.73 18:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Twice president of a notable organisation. For 72.75.117.73s info, Chief Scout is already an article and most of them do have their own article.... Jcuk 20:10, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. It seems to me that there is probably more than enough room at the organization's page to list all of these presidents, but they don't seem otherwise notable enough that they need an independent article. Peyna 22:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete NN. No sources, no WP:V.... Arbusto 02:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above, nothing wrong w/stubs. --badlydrawnjeff talk 16:55, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to the United States Chess Federation article until something substantial can be written. Yamaguchi先生 23:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Being President of the USCF does not make you notable in the least. - Joshua Johaneman 00:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Should be expanded, as Tim Redman's contributions to chess, especially at the college level, are notable. He has twice been the president of the USCF, and the chess program he started at the University of Texas at Dallas is one of only two officially designated (by the World Chess Federation) centers for chess education in the world. Personally, I know nothing about the chess world, but a quick google of his name alerted me to the fact that he certainly seems to be a notable person. Cfrydj 22:12, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.