Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Dunn
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was no consensus to delete. —Cleared as filed. 19:19, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tim Dunn
I became aware of this article after someone pointed it to me in the AfD of Larry Kissell, another candidate, which looks like it will be deleted. My reasons are still the same from that AfD, but I'll summarize them here anyways: WP:BIO states that generally only "Political figures holding international, national or statewide/provincewide office or members of a national, state or provincial legislature" and "Major local political figures who receive significant press coverage" should be included. If he's elected, we should definitely include an article, but until then, I'm not too sure. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 16:14, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep - Being a lt. Colonel is no small thing. This guy has been mentioned in national media local media been endorsed by former senator Cleland although he only has about 1/10th of his opponent's war chest. If he looses the election then I'll vote for delete, for now he must stay —This user has left wikipedia 16:44 2006-02-05
- But Wikipedia is not a crystal ball; it should be the other way around. If he wins, then we should include him; until then, I don't think that he fits our inclusion criteria. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 16:48, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: You are misunderstand, the Crystal Ball policy reads Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation. All articles about anticipated events must be verifiable, and the subject matter must be of sufficiently wide interest that it would merit an article if the event had already occurred This guy exists, he has been featured on USA today and he is notable for now. —This user has left wikipedia 17:02 2006-02-05
- While I respect your opinion, I don't think that being mentioned in an article should qualify; the person should have had "significant" press coverage. A Google News search produces less than 10 relevant results. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 17:08, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: You are misunderstand, the Crystal Ball policy reads Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation. All articles about anticipated events must be verifiable, and the subject matter must be of sufficiently wide interest that it would merit an article if the event had already occurred This guy exists, he has been featured on USA today and he is notable for now. —This user has left wikipedia 17:02 2006-02-05
- But Wikipedia is not a crystal ball; it should be the other way around. If he wins, then we should include him; until then, I don't think that he fits our inclusion criteria. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 16:48, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Delete nominator is absolutely right. Come back if/when he's elected. Eusebeus 19:20, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Wikipedia is not paper, this does not harm, and he's notable enough - Googling "Tim Dunn" North Carolina gives 49,000 hits. I don't agree with the above that the Lt. Colonel part should have anything to do with it however. Turnstep 20:50, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: Wikipedia being paper shouldn't have anything to do with this. If he's notable enough to be included, he should; if he isn't, he shouldn't. Also, a Google search for "Tim Dunn" North Carolina 8th Congressional District returns far less results, only about 600, some of which are Wikipedia and mirrors result. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- KeepI have added some news links so you can see that he's being talked about on a national level. 132.241.245.49 21:40, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. While candidates for office generally don't meet the notability bar, this one appears to have attracted sufficient interest to make him worthy of consideration. Capitalistroadster 00:22, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. DES (talk) 16:42, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, major party candidate for national office. Kappa 03:13, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - not notable as of now, needs to be a page for him only if he wins. -- Pierremenard 08:50, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
