Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thiruppugazh

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep Eluchil404 02:16, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thiruppugazh

{{{text}}} V. Joe 18:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Note by Sandstein 18:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC): I think the deletion rationale that V. Joe meant to add, now at the top of the article, was:

Its a prayer, and so without context as to be inherently semi-coherent. I think its a hindu prayer, but other than that, nadda.>

• Delete, all shades of WP:NOT. Sandstein 18:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

  ...without prejudice to recreation or unless rewritten, per Lambiam below. Sandstein 20:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

  Keep after cleanup by Arvind. Sandstein 04:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, clean up and expand. It is not a prayer. The article is about the quite notable collection of songs, known as the Thiruppugazh, of Arunagirinathar, a 15th century Tamil saint. The search term "Thiruppugazh OR Tiruppugazh" gets about 19,600 Google hits, while variations like "Thiruppukazh", "Tirupugaz", etcetera, give a few hundred more hits. The article is obviously not written according to WP:MOS; for example it uses a long paragraph to sketch the socio-religious context before the topic is introduced (in an unclear manner), and it also has to be cleaned up for neutrality. But both are weak grounds for deletion. There is much more to be said about the songs then there is in the present article. --Lambiam^Talk 20:24, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

  Thanks for the good research - I see now that the subject is notable. But the text is rambling, unsourced, NPOV, adulatory etc., in short, useless unless for a complete rewrite or stubification. Sandstein 20:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep but Completely Rewrite Notable subject but needs total rewrite Bwithh 21:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. It is a very well-known text in the Tamil language. Of course, the article needs comprehensive rewriting, and I have already contacted the correct person and sought his intervention. ImpuMozhi 02:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep It's a notable literary work. I've done some copyediting and provided certain links and references. (Thanks for the notice, Impumozhi.) -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 07:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - It is an important work of Tamil poetry. Its religious nature is just incidental. Does require rewrite.- Parthi 11:00, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
• Very Strong Keep. It is an extremely significant work of mediaeval Tamil literature. I'd also add that something being a prayer or religious work isn't a ground for deletion, unless we're going to start deleting Litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Ein Keloheinu, Vishnu sahasranama and so on. -- Arvind 01:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.