Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Vampire's Assistant

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The result of the debate was Keep. Various merge options were discussed but these can be dealt with outside this decision on whether to delete. --Tony SidawayTalk 11:48, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Vampire's Assistant

This seems to be a work of fiction. Nothing showed up in Google to indicate plagiarism Cnwb 04:43, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

  • This would seem to be a plot summary of a book. I am unfamiliar with the series, and I have no idea how notable it is. This article's fate should be inextricably tied to that of Cirque Du Freak. Aerion//talk 05:02, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Smerge in light of comments below. There's really no need for such a detailed plot summary, although a high-level summary would be useful. Aerion//talk 17:18, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Further comment: related articles can be found at Jerichoholic's contributions page. All the articles on Darren Shan books should share the same fate. Aerion//talk 17:23, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Seeing as to the fact that the summary I gave of The Vampire's Assistant and Cirque Du Freak exceed in detail and words from that of [1], I don't see how I could have plagarized or copyrighted. There are several articles out there on the books, but I guarantee that my article was written in my own words. I also sincerely doubt that there are as detailed articles on the books on other websites. Jerichoholic

  • Nobody's accusing you of plagiarism. In fact, the original poster said that there is no apparent copyright violation. Aerion//talk 17:18, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Then I do not understand why it is an issue. Jerichoholic
  • The original issue was that, to the original poster, the article appeared to be an original work of fiction. Some further research indicated that the article is in fact a very detailed plot summary of a published work. While plot summaries are nice (although they should be tagged with spoiler warnings), there is a limit to how much detail is really necessary. Those editors who have voted for a "smerge" or something similar are those who feel that the level of detail you have given is somewhat excessive. ... On an unrelated note, you should log in. Aerion//talk 02:58, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
  • It was extremely unnecessary for me to log in, for I don't see anything different. Why does it matter if I used detail? Who are you to judge? Does it really matter? And, I would've tagged a spoiler warning and put other parts in the pages about the books, but you people gave me no chance, really. Jerichoholic
  • In other countries, such as the UK and Ireland, the series is known as "The Saga of Darren Shan." If you were to use a page for all the books, I would suggest changing the name to the original series name, other than Cirque Du Freak. Jerichoholic
  • Keep and cleanup. I'd say the article should be kept, but the whole thing would need to be rewriten and have just he main points included and a few more details about the series they belong to. I wouldn't think it would benefit anything to have the summary included on the Darren Shan page and I think we should have separate pages for all 12 books (if they don't alrwady exist). The books all seem to be gaining in popularity now and I've seen many books shops with significant displays for them. Evil Eye 11:35, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep but merge, together with Cirque Du Freak, into The Saga of Darren Shan. If that title is not acceptable, try splitting the current Darren Shan article into Darren Shan (writer) (which should probably be a REDIRECT to Darren O'Shaughnessey anyway, and merging all the various individual books into Darren Shan. HTH HAND—Phil | Talk 08:54, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
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