Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Last Memento of The Beatles

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The result of the debate was - deleted - SimonP 02:15, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Last Memento of The Beatles

Non encyclopaedic, non-notable, vanity, advertising, unconfirmable, palpably false in parts. Should be deleted, and possibly protected. Also The Last Memento Of The Beatles Vinny Vincent Ruello Allan Kissick Lu Ruello Hope AlbumDrops Of Light should be deleted, and possibly protected. Rich Farmbrough 21:03, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

• It's a Beatles article, my first instinct would be to call such a thing notable. It even has an external link. Can you give a bit more info on exactly what you think is patently false and how this is not notable? Mgm|^(talk) 22:02, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
  • the external link is to the page of the person trying to sell the item Vincent Ruello and his alleged manager. His claim to have an item worth millions (article "almost priceless piece") is not supported at [1]. His claim that there waas an Austalian Daily Telegraph article does not seem to be borne out, see discussion by my brother on the talk page. Michael Heatley was not the Beatles' agent as far as we know. In other articles of the group, Allan Kissick does not seem to have ever managed the Easybeats (googleing he only exists on 2 'pedia mirrors), I can find no record of the Hope Album (google ("Hope Album" Ruello) no hits). I have removed references from the Easybeats and Beatles articles, which were effectively vandalism. The only google hits on "Last Memento of The Beatles" are the site selling it and wikipedia mirrors. ("Drops of light" has more important meanings) '"Drops of light" ruello' gets 1 hit (you can listen to their music) 'pentultima ruello' a massive 4 hits. Given the author's unreliability on all these facts, I would not want to rely on the article being a genuine Beatles association item, without a reliable source, but even if it were, there's thousands out there (I have books that belonged to J.R.R.Tolkien, but they're not worthy of articles, and wouldn't be even if they were extensively autographed). Rich Farmbrough 23:00, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Like the first sentence above says, this is junk. jls 5 May 2005.
• Delete all, advertising. Megan1967 03:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, for reasons stated above.David Farmbrough 6 May 2005 08:52 (BST).
• Merge with the article on the Abbey Road album as a trivia item -- but only if this is genuine information. If, as suggested above, it is fiction, then Delete. 23skidoo 23:06, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
• Rich Farmbrough you are a jeolous vindictive person doing things against the spirit and policy of Wikipedia. The last memento of the beatles is exactly what it says. This must be allowed to stay. the history of Drops of light and Allan Kisick is also true and relevant. Michael Heatley who is the manager today at EMI London is the agent for Apple still and current. If anyone dares remove any of my historical articles due to jeolousy or other motives you will be reported and the articles will simply go back up. Rowan Ayers was interviewed on the 26th Dec 2004 Daily Telegraph by reporter Peter Holmes authenticating the history of this English treasure. unsigned comment from 144.138.137.38

Personal attacks are against the spirit and policy of Wikipedia as well. Gamaliel 03:05, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Nice to be appreciated, thanks to those who've reverted the vandalism of the VfD. I like the way Wikipedia uses the minimum amount of discipline to fix problems, very like how wolf packs becve internally. Rich Farmbrough 21:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

• Delete -- He's been attempting to sell this item on eBay for years now using high cost main page 'featured item' exposure, along with similar kooky write-ups. I tried locating older eBay auction archives but they don't seem to be about anywhere I could find. Wikipedia is free advertising and he knows it. -- Longhair | Talk 16:07, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
• Ok I firstly appologise for my anger and what I said to you Richard but you did slander me and my item. I will reach a compromise with the wikipedia community. Remove my advertising web page but please keep the history and the item and my connections with Sam Leach and Allan Kissick....Kind regards Vincent Ruello comment from 144.138.137.139

Apology accepted. However the consensus will likely be implemented by an admin. Rich Farmbrough 20:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Richard, this is a beautiful late rare memento with exquisite pedigree. Phil Jenkinson who made the cartoon wobble on the BBC launch for the album working with Rowan was the pioneer of pop/rock clips. there are not thousands of these out there, I own the original and have only released a couple of dozen. This is the only history made available of this piece. Im honored to be here at wikipedia and to meet you all.Vince.

I didn't mean thousands of that particular item, I meant things like "THE MAGICIANS CAPE WORN BY JOHN LENNON IN 'THE MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR', 1967 the red wool full-length" I.E. association items. I wish you good luck finding a buyer for yours. Rich Farmbrough 19:42, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

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