Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Joggers

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Sango123 18:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Joggers

Non-notable per WP:MUSIC -Nv8200p talk 15:29, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - non notable per WP:MUSIC. Thryduulf 22:23, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - notable at least FIVE times per WP:MUSIC, when only ONE needs to be documented to establish notability according to wikipedia specifications:

1. Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country, reported in notable and verifiable sources. - a simple google search will show you the Joggers have toured the whole US more than once. They are from Portland on the West Coast and you can easily find an account of memorable shows in New York. here is a list of shows from this year's spring tour from Lycos
2. Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable). - Important indie label. Does that mean big? Or musically important. Startime International includes many artists who receive a lot of airplay on college radio, including The Walkmen, The Futureheads, and The French Kicks, all of which are notable, even if Startime doesn't have its own entry. Their homepage.
3. Has been featured in multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media (excludes things like school newspapers, personal blogs, etc...). - again, google joggers interview. Or see here for Spin magazine's take, the Joggers are a band of the day and this link also shows another coast to coast tour of the US in the Fall of 2005, and Pitchfork, considered to be THE US online indie music mag talks about the Joggers here and here, and lined them up for Pitchfork's own music fest.
4. Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such. Jake Morris has also played drums for the French Kicks on one tour. Here's an account.
5. Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city (or both, as in British hip hop); note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. - Portland's main alternative weekly calls them Portland's favorite band (scroll down to Sunday). They also have a very unique sound, as the Spin (how major can you get) link states. User:Guyanakoolaid

• None of this is mentioned in the article or verifiable. User:Guyanakoolaid has given no sources for the above or put any of this in the article (with sources). -Nv8200p talk 16:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
• I believe sufficient documentation has now been provided. User:Guyanakoolaid

Why don't you document the article, instead of this AFD discussion? -Nv8200p talk 03:53, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Mostly because documentation proving notability doesn't necessarily always fit with the text of the article. The fact that they have toured nationwide isn't mentioned because it is assumed. It would seem unnecessary to have to mention a band's tour history when nothing about their touring stands out as abnormal from a mid-sized band with two albums. Here I have given more than enough documentation to prove notability, and where applicable I will link in the article as well. User:Guyanakoolaid

• Were featured in Entertainment Weekly for one of the most anticipated albums for "With a Cape and a Cane".

Great! Where is the link or the reference so I can verify. -Nv8200p talk 03:53, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

The EW link is in the article.

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• Keep looks like they have indeed toured extensively. Their 'SOlid Gold' album has a respectable Arank of 15,366th. Passes WP:MUSIC Ohconfucius 04:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep they appear to be notable within WP:MUSIC IrishGuy ^talk 22:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep they have passed the requirements needed for WP:MUSIC
• Keep Solid Guild was reviewed in the 1/22/2004 issue of Rollingstone Magazine 3 out 5 stars. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.139.204.76 (talk • contribs).

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