Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jim Rome Show

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was SPEEDY KEEP. That's a horribly bloated, messy article, but this is an encyclopedic topic. Fix the article. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 11:12, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Jim Rome Show

Cleanup I started this article, and now I'm ashamed I did. This has ballooned into something very unencyclopedic and overblown. It needs to be trimmed and cleaned up. Zpb52 02:42, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

• Uh... if you want it cleaned up, why are you bringing it up for deletion, then? You really should use the appropriate {{clean-up}} tag instead, for example. (In any case, since it is now up for deletion, I vote keep; the subject certainly appears to deserve an article of its own.) -- Captain Disdain 02:51, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
  • {{clean-up}} accomplishes nothing. --Zpb52 02:53, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
    • ...okay. -- Captain Disdain 02:56, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
      • Uh, if no one cleans it up, 'clean-up' accomplishes nothing. But posting it as a 'delete' when you really just want it to be cleaned up...that's really pointless. Please don't misuse tags. Devotchka 03:03, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep or even Speedy Keep since it wasn't intended as a delete. Devotchka 02:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Speedy keep since this wasn't intended to be a deletion request. 23skidoo 03:20, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup. There is an enormous amount of information in the article of interest to fans only. Nonetheless, it is notable enough for an article. Capitalistroadster 03:56, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Please Keep since, frankly, I find it one of the most interesting, enlightening, and complete article I see. Also, I don't see Zpb52 making any effort to save his own page. When I created my first page, I closely monitored it, and have edited it for content. Frankly, I want it to stay as it is. For one thing, it provides information for new clones, and helps them understand the show. Second, its detail is unsurpassed. Finally, participation is through the roof. If you're going to delete it, you'll have undone the work of literally dozens of readers and listeners. This isn't some obscure cartoon or late night show. This is 'the' place to learn about the show. You are going to kill your own baby without trying to fix it? Get a life. If you delete this page, I will quit this site. --Saxonjf 04:01, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. None of the above are reasons for keeping the page. Also, refrain from the personal attacks. It's not the way to earn respect on Wikipedia. --Zpb52 04:32, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
    • Well, since you brought that up, neither is nominating a perfectly valid article for deletion not because you want it deleted but because you want it cleaned up but can't be bothered to do it yourself or even use the existing Wikipedia tools, such as {{cleanup}} or submitting the article to the Cleanup Taskforce. I also see that you posted "This article is getting out of hand. If we don't trim some fat, it could wind up on the VfD list." to the article's talk page, which leads me to believe that you aren't quite familiar with the deletion process in general and the deletion policy in particular. I mean no offense here, but this is really very, very much the wrong way of going about getting an article improved. -- Captain Disdain 07:10, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Weak Keep But only if it's cleaned up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dantecubed (talk • contribs) UTC 05:00, 28 October 2005.
• Keep and tag for cleanup. Christopher Parham (talk) 06:40, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep but tag for cleanup. There needs to be a distinction here between what is apropriate for an encyclopedic article, and what is appropriate for a Jim Rome Show fansite. Currently, the article is too far towards the latter. If someone wants to take a copy of the article as is and throw it up on a Geocities page as a the world's best Jim Rome fansite, then no power in the world can stop them, but Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. --Clay Collier 07:23, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and give the nominator a virtual slap for being a lazy so-and-so. —Phil | Talk 09:20, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.