Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The End.

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Relisting in individual AFDs. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 03:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

- Please note this will take me a few moments. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 03:47, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The End.

Non notable song. Not released as a single.

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:

FLW and WTTBP are both singles, so I crossed them out. icelandic hur ric ane #12 _(talk) 01:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Richmeister_talk 01:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

keep they were realesed on CD's...good enough for me Nickmanning214 01:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm not crazy about this nomination. That's a lot rolled up into one, and it's not like songs are a straightforward issue. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 02:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Speedy Keep and close. Too many songs for one AFD. These should be relisted individually. --Dennisthe2 02:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Keep Unless we want to eliminate most individual song articles, or which there are many... IronDuke 03:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Comment I do doubt that every song on The Black Parade requires an article, especially the b-sides. Though there does appear to be original research in the form of lyrical interpretation and speculative trivia, you should have done some more research yourself (not nominating the prominent singles). Pomte 03:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

My bad. Forgot to remove them from the list. --Richmeister_talk 04:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Relist individually before we move on per Dennisthe2 - Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 06:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Delete While I'm not completely opposed to relisting, I am really skeptical that any of these would survive individual AfD's. Not many individual songs are notable enough to have their own articles; the album they appear on should be sufficient. Granted, there are certainly notable enough songs (Stairway to Heaven, Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, Wish You Were Here, for example, but I doubt any song by My Chemical Romance is. However, if any of these songs are particularly noteworthy (have they garned special attention by the media? have they been made into a single?) then someone should point it out. --The Way 06:35, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Speedy keep to relist, several of these items should be merged instead. hateless 06:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Relist if you must. "Not released as a single" is not good enough, per The Way, although yes, I would be surprised if any of these turn out to be notable. However, for any that aren't Keeps, Merge/Redirect would probably be the better option anyway, which doesn't require an AfD. CiaranG 08:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Further comment - there is of course an undeniably notable song called The End, also not a single. CiaranG 08:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget [[The End (The Beatles song) which, admittedly, is not a single either. I doubt that My Chemical Romance's 'The End' is even remotely close to being as notable as either of these. --The Way 09:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Relist individually. What's really needed is some kind of consensus on notability of songs at WP:MUSIC- I've been puzzled about what to do with articles like these before. -FisherQueen (Talk) 12:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, there is the 'inactive' Wikipedia:Notability (songs) which perhaps ought not to be inactive, though I don't know the history. Interestingly, if you browse the talk page there, you will find a discussion about My Chemical Romance song AfDs, and links to previous AfD debates. CiaranG 12:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Relist. It's impossible to handle a list like this. I see a couple of nominations have been withdrawn as well, casting any potential delete votes (not that there are many yet) in doubt. Let's try this again. 23skidoo 17:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Keep. We have lots of individual song pages. Also, see WP:NOT#PAPER. Mcr616 20:35, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Relist too much to deal with in one nomination. seems like fancruft to me. I would say delete most. simply because the band is notable, it does not mean that all of the songs on an album necessairly are. keep the singles. kill the rest.--Tainter 20:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Comment I'd also like to add that a lot of it seems like original research, which is grounds for deletion unless sources are cited. and also simply because other bands have non-single songs with articles doesn't mean that this one or everyone should--Tainter 04:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Keep: I could possibly see the B-Sides being deleted however the main songs in the album were released on the album itself and there are also many other bands with all if not most songs in a article. But if the B-sides need to be deleted then they should but the main songs are from a notable album that was released.
Keep. There is plenty of relevant information about the songs themselves and the stories behind them, and if that can be provided, then, no matter how insignificant the articles seem to you, then they have a right to be posted. Also, though it is a b-side, there was a lot of speculation, argument, and confusion over Kill All Your Friends because it was mentioned in passing in the album's limited edition, but no one verified when it was coming out or what it sounded like, so several people thought it might be Track 14. Thus, this article, if not the others, should be kept, as there is still some confusion about it.American_kohaku

Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 22:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Keep: There are many non-single song pages by bands less notable. Logically, these deserve to stay. Godlord2 03:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Keep: While some could argue the point that keeping the songs is pointless, some songs such as Dead! have gained some attention. For example, "Dead!" is scheduled for release on Guitar Hero II as a bonus track and I Don't Love You has received a critic review even though it has not been released as a single. And as American_kohaku pointed out, the confusion of Kill All Your Friends and Blood is addressed by the pages. 70.160.181.113 00:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Merge inot album articles. --thedemonhog 00:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Keep: all the songs pages are useful. they help you to undestand what the band wanna say, specially for people who doesn't speak a good english, like me.--Moraleh 04:37, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Delete pretentious to think a single MCR song is notable. Rehevkor 10:37, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Relist individually per 23skidoo. Lovelac 7 10:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Relist per above comments. -DMurphy 11:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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