Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The College of Wooster Greeks (2)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate wasKept as a renomination. (If we can't argue content on Wikipedia:Deletion review for articles that got deleted, I see no reason why the querelous should be able to renominate articles that got kept until they get the desired result.) Snowspinner 04:41, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The College of Wooster Greeks

The last nomination resulted in no consensus. Let's see -- article that was signed until I removed the signature, about a bunch of nn fraternities and sororities. This article is longer than the article on the college itself. WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information. User:Purplefeltangel/sig 20:28, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

• Strong Keep irrespective of any possible failings it survived Afd in September Dlyons493 Talk 21:29, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
  • That has no bearing on its current nomination. The vote resulted in no consensus. User:Purplefeltangel/sig 21:44, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
    • The default is "keep" - David Gerard 21:56, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with The College of Wooster after some snipping. --MacRusgail 22:13, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, collection of fraternity trivia. Pilatus 22:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
• Comment This could be an interesting subject. I know people who went there, and supposedly Wooster didn't have nationals for decades because of a bequest from a former student that had been badly hazed that conditioned the money on no frats. I don't know the exact story, but it did lead to lots of oddities in Wooster Greek life, like no real houses (just halls in particular dorms, usually the bad ones). A2Kafir 23:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
• In an effort to build consensus I'm voting delete per nomination this time. --Metropolitan90 00:08, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - A list of Fraternities at a small college? I really don't think wikikpedia is the right place for that sort of information. - Hahnchen 14:09, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete nn.  Grue  18:33, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - Wooster does in fact have an unusual history of fraternities, and this article is a reasonable spin-off of the main article. Snowspinner 21:52, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Additional comment - the creator of the article, in the first deletion debate, notes that he made a trip to special collections to verify his facts. Which is to say, this article is the product of real work and real research. Yeah, there are more notable topics, and it could be formatted away from a list. But I really wish we would stop rewarding hard work on articles with "Delete nn." Multiple times. Snowspinner 22:18, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Good enough in its field, and in any case "delete, I don't know what this is about" is not a sensible deletion reason - David Gerard 21:56, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
• Weak delete. The introduction doesn't establish the point of the article, except that a bunch of things are "mysterious," and it's just a list of fraternities with a few incidents of history thrown in. I would not be opposed to a shorter article that was about history, which cited sources for necessary facts about fraternities instead of listing them all. Honestly, this sort of seems to be a FAQ (or correction of common misconceptions, maybe) about the fraternities at the college, but Wikipedia is not an indescriminate collection of information. Am I wrong to vote delete on an article that might be rewritten completely with some of the same content, but is currently not at all an encyclopedia article? -- SCZenz 01:05, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge per MacRusgail, after taking out all the lists of fraternities. I see no evidence the history is uninteresting, and there's no reason for the college not to have a section on fraternity history. -- SCZenz 01:07, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Ultimately uninteresting to me and needs some cleanup, (especially in the lead) but should be kept. Unfocused 03:35, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Comment (no vote). I was the person to nominate this article the first time. I go to this college. I am not a Greek student, but have no problem with Greeks. At the time, the reason why I nominated was because the article was both POV and unverified, and, at the time, it seemed like that wasn't going to change. I had no idea where the author had originally gotten his information. Those two problems were resolved during the first AfD debate. I personally have an appreciation for the article now, though there are still problem areas, but I am not voting; I think my attending the school and my interactions with greeks color my judgment too much. --Jacquelyn Marie 03:42, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.