Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Cheetah Girls tours

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 22:01, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Cheetah Girls tours

The Cheetah Girls tours (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) - (View log)

Is Wikipedia a gig guide now? The encyclopaedic content of this article is: The Cheetah Girls went on tour. A link to the tour on their website will fulfill the desire of those who wish to look at the list of tour dates. Status Quo have been touring since the mid 19th Century and we don't have an article on their tours, this is a level of detail which is entirely inappropriate for a general encyclopaedia. Guy (Help!) 12:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete most definitely non-encylopaedic. Madmedea 13:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. → p00rleno (lvl 81) ←ROCKS^C_RS 13:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete this appears to be an indiscriminate collection of (trivial) information about a notable band.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:38, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
• Merge the actual information about the tours to the band's main article, recounting the tours the band has done does make a certain amount of sense, I think. Recounting a band's history is something many such articles do. A general "history" section may be preferable, but that's a matter to work out on the article's talk page. Delete the dates /locations for the tour, though, that's not needed.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Wikipedia is not a general encyclopedia; it is a de facto collection of specialized encyclopedias (biographical, geographical, historical, music, film, television, etc.) where in each of these areas the articles typically go into far more detail than those in any general encyclopedia would. Referring to music, we already have articles on every album and often every single that recent artists have put out, so this ship has sailed. Concert tours articles are already an established practice on Wikipedia; as Category:Concert tours shows, there are some 350 of them currently. They describe the notable characteristics of particular tours, in the same manner that album and singles articles do of particular recordings. See Zoo TV Tour or Music Box Tour or Phish tours for some examples. Could the Cheetah Girls tours article be improved? Sure, but that by itself is no reason for deleting it. Wasted Time R 17:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep I agree with Wastsed Time. I mean, it is encylopedic. And yes, it could be improved, but hey, look at the tag at the top. The artivle is in progress. It was onced merged with The Cheetah Girls (girl group) but was then made into its own article, when the first article became to crowded. People may want to know this information, and it needs to stay. Jtervin 20:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I didn't expect to vote this way until I read the article. It isn't just list of concerts, there is considerable info that is specific to the tour rather being just general Cheetah Girls info. I am very bothered by the complete lack of verifiable sources, but that isn't grounds for deletion as the Cheetah Girls' notability is far beyond doubt. A merger is out of the question given the size of the articles in question. Shaundakulbara 08:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. The more info the better when it comes to notable musical configurations. The lack of sources is a problem, but not sufficient to delete - otherwise we could just have a bot that excises every article without references (roughly half the encyclopedia). We have hundreds of articles on concert tours. In fact, certain bands, such as the Rolling Stones, have their own cats with multiple articles on their tours. See Category:The Rolling Stones tours. Perhaps the nom was not familiar with our coverage in that area. The nom complains that we lack an article on Status Quo tours since the "mid 19th century". I fail to see the connection with the Cheetah Girls, but my response to that type of argument is: (i) unfortunately our coverage is far from complete. This is an ongoing project; (ii) suggest that someone create a Staus Quo Tour article at Wikipedia:Requested articles/music/Festivals and concerts (although since the band apparently formed in 1962, it may not be necessary to look much further than the 20th century). --JJay 04:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.