Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Cambridge Student

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The result of the debate was Keep. Rje 19:55, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Cambridge Student

Student newspapers are not inherently notable, and the article fails to establish notability for this one. Uncle G 00:31, 2005 Feb 8 (UTC)

• Keep Cambridge is quite a well known university. I will categorise the articlePhilip 01:01, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC). Never heard of it - where is it ? Brookie 19:17, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Easily notable. Samaritan 01:44, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: expanded to include claims of notability from their website. Kappa 01:49, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep agree that not all student newspapers are notable, but come on... this isn't Podunk Township Middle School we're talking about here. Well above the bar. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 02:37, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
  • That the university is notable does not automatically make its student unions, buildings, newspapers, academic staff, catering services, or groundskeepers notable. The worthiness of the newspaper has to be considered on its own merits. The circulation figure is one such datum. But I'm not quite persuaded by it. The (equally) free local newspaper that comes unsolicited through through my door every Thursday, and that I throw directly into the recycling bin, boasts an uncombined readership of 42000, nearly three times that of The Cambridge Student, and it too sports interviews with prominent political figures, campaigns on public issues, coverage of national news, features, and reviews. I'm not persuaded that it is notable on those grounds, so I'm not persuaded that The Cambridge Student is notable on solely the same grounds, especially given the pretty much identical distribution and funding mechanisms. Persuade me either that The Cambridge Student is somehow different to my local free newspaper, or that my local free newspaper is notable. ☺ Uncle G 06:18, 2005 Feb 8 (UTC)
    • This paper will almost certainly contain contributions from numberous students who go on to become national figures in many fields. It is likely to be a leading training ground for distinguished colummnists and editors. But your local paper should also have an article. I can't understand why some people want to prevent Wikipedia from becoming a comprehensive guide to the world. Philip 18:51, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Student newspapers are frequently notable. This one certainly is. --Centauri 03:22, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete and make everyone read Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Gamaliel 04:00, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, article does not establish notability. Megan1967 07:36, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Extreme keep no less. —RaD Man (talk) 08:26, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep but its not as good as Varsity Fuzz 13:01, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Student newspapers aren't inherently notable, but the main student newspaper at Cambridge University probably is, and indeed it has a Wikipedia article: Varsity (newspaper). However, this isn't that paper. This article is about the free weekly put out by the Student Union at Cambridge for the last five years or so. I wonder if the people voting Keep even bothered to read the article. Notability not established. --BM 14:25, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • *GASP* I'm shocked. —RaD Man (talk) 21:37, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Both the Varsity and TCS are free, and are both "main newspapers" in Cam although Varsity does have a longer history and is more notable, I believe the TCS is still notable enough for inclusion Fuzz 14:50, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and expand. It's a good start for an article. --Neigel von Teighen 14:29, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Student newspapers do derive some of their notability from the notability of the university they're associated with, by virtue of the fact that the papers derive some of their capability to cover a wide range of things and their circulation from that association. Varsity (newspaper) is probably more deserving of an article in general, but that doesn't mean that this one is not. If the 15,000 circ. figure cited in this article is correct, that makes it a pretty good-sized student newspaper. (I worked many years for my college newspaper, UT's The Daily Texan, the largest student newspaper in the US with a daily circ. of approximately 30,000.) Katefan0 16:35, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and allow for organic growth and expansion. GRider\^talk 17:56, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, campus newspapers aren't inherently encyclopedic, this one is. Wyss 20:27, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Cambridge University Students' Union. No more notable than the student newspaper I once wrote for - in fact, probably less so since this isn't even the dominant student newspaper for the university. Rossami (talk) 23:23, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Weak keep. --JuntungWu 18:34, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Keep As far as I can see there's nothing wrong with it.. This is prime wikipedia material (of course if people want it improved - then improve it! max rspct 21:43, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Why not? Student newspapers at sufficiently notable universities are notable. - Mustafaa 22:26, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. I agree with Mustafaa. bakuzjw (aka 578) 23:48, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Extreme Keep. Agree with Mustafaa. Bart133 (t) 21:51, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Merge all of the various student unions, organizations and cruft at cambridge into one keeper article. They don't ~really~ merit standing alone, but may figure in future biographies as starting places of others. Not to mention may aid in research about someone going to that school. --Dbroadwell 19:16, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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