Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Temple Of The Vampire

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. -Doc ^ask? 19:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Temple Of The Vampire

This was a contested prod. This article is about a "secret society", and no reputable sources have been produced. I suggest deletion for lack of verifiability. Friday (talk) 18:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

• Stake through the heart, nn secret society. — AKADriver ☎ 18:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I love their rules: don't drink blood and abide by the law. They must be a pretty scary bunch of vampires. Gwernol 18:53, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Dust these NN posers per nom. RGTraynor 19:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

What does NN stand for? Not notable as below? Tyciol 14:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, not notable. --Mhking 23:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, borderline on notability but lacking sources outside the Temple itself. If someone turns up new sources the page can be recreated. Maestlin 16:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

New sources have been turned up and listed under 'External links', waiting to be incorporated into article. Tyciol 14:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Sources from outside the Temple are provided. There is a reference to the site in the CoS website

Incorporate these outside sources into the article, then. Make it worthwhile and I will change my vote. I don't object on principle to the idea of including a "secret society"; Wikipedia has plenty of them already. Secrets are hard to keep. Maestlin 17:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. We're not a "scary bunch of Vampires." Please delete this article.
• Keep: I would like to know where 'secret society' is mentioned in the Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Deletion for lack of verifiability is not an issue, there is nothing unverified in the article.
• Delete, secret societies are inherently unverifiable. verifiability is perhaps the most important policy on Wikipedia. Stifle (talk) 16:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: sources have been added to the article. I'm not sure how solid they are in terms of verifiability. Some of them appear to be blogs and forums and whatnot. I'm not yet convinced of the significance of this group, even if they are verifiable (which I'm not too convinced of yet either). Friday (talk) 18:00, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

The Temple of the Vampire is not a complete unknown. They seem to be one of the more stable vampire groups. (Just for the record, I do not consider myself a vampire.) I found a description of a book on Amazon that mentions the Temple as one of its topics. That might be a verifiable source, but I am not buying it just for the sake of writing up this article. This subject might be better placed as a section in a larger article on vampire groups or goth religions or similar. As long as it can avoid OR, such an article would definitely have a place on Wikipedia. Maestlin 18:20, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.