Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tekken characters

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep all. For future reference, please note that I would never consider deleting scores of articles in a category on the basis of a single VfD, unless those articles seriously damaged wikipedia (in which case I'd summarily delete them all). Please exercise restraint in nominations. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 02:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Tekken characters articles

This is an umbrella Vfd concerning the articles listed under Category:Tekken characters. To vote on the category, go here.

There is no need for a page per character. As a List of Tekken characters page already exists, these subpages should be deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BradBeattie (talk • contribs) 20:36, 18 July 2005.

• Redirect to List of Tekken characters. KeithD 20:42, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

*Please take this to Wikipedia:Categories for deletion Flowerparty 20:53, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• I'm going to interpret this as a blanket VfD for all the articles in the category. It is with reluctance, that I fear I must vote keep all despite what I really think. -Splash 21:26, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Apologies, I seem to have misinterpreted the vote. If so, then I abstain. Flowerparty 21:48, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep all, the List of Tekken characters page has became too long (and is still growing), and some contents are being moved to pages from Category:Tekken characters. --surueña 22:11, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
• Comment This is not the Categories for deletion page. Dcarrano 00:03, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
  • Like I said, the nomination sounds like it's intended for all the articles in the cat, rather than the cat itself. It's not a very standard way to do things, but I think that's what was meant.-Splash 00:14, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
    • That's inappropriate though IMO, due to lack of notice. For instance, a visitor to the Tiger Jackson page has no way to know that that page is currently up for VfD. Dcarrano 00:17, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
      • Oh, good point. I guess an admin can close it as inappropriately executed on such a large scale. It's turned up on CfD now too. -Splash 01:24, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
        • I have now given proper notice by adding a VfD tag to all the articles in this category not already separately nominated. DES 07:23, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• Either way, keep. Radiant_>|< 10:48, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
• Comment. To clarify, this is a blanket VfD for all of the associated pages. I didn't get around to VfDing each of them, although someone else has already begun a vote on Christie Monteiro.
  • And I added proper VfD tags, see above. DES 07:23, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• No one is deleting this page. it rocks. there other pages that have characters lists and a category for the characters. This should be no different.--Dangerous-Boy
• Delete All There is no good reason for separate articels for these characters. DES 06:33, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep all. We have Mortal Kombat (like Liu Kang) and Street Fighter characters (like Blanka) articles, so, I don't see any reason to delete Tekken characters articles, but not the other fighting games character articles. --Carioca 07:01, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep all Although other fictional chars have been deleted in the past, there are still quite a few of them with valid articles. Assuming each article has a video game story/history, might as well keep them. ∞Who?¿? 07:26, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep All - For one thing, this is a continuing work in progress, and this deletion is coming in the middle of it all. The pages need to be worked on but not summarily deleted. Wikipedia is conducive to expanding its knowledge, and you can't fit absolutely everything about these characters onto one page. People have tried, and it only gets really messy and far beyond the recommended size of an article. Many people have been working hard to demonstrate the lengthy stories and characteristics of these games, but they're more complex than is suitable for a single page, and if each character is given an individual page, not only will there be boundless room for expansion as the series progress, but the article can serve its purpose: to teach people what they want to know. And besides, people will eventually get into strategy sections too, which will make this all the more worthwhile. Nothing should be deleted. Seriously, though, what does it hurt? (Edit: Sorry, I forgot my user name, which is Shackleton.)
• Strong keep, both on the category and several individual articles (Jin Kazama, for example). Some of the individual character pages include a lot of information, and consolidating such pages with every other Tekken character article would look (a) horrendous and (b) disorganised. If Hermione Granger can exist (and she's not even the protagonist of the Harry Potter series), Jin Kazama deserves to exist. jglc | t | c 13:31, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep All - Videogames Character are like actors in movies, the knowlegde given buy those article help to understand the game storylineCyberboz.)
  • Comment - video game characters are the equivalent of characters in movies, not the actors. Characters from either of these mediums seldom have the potential to become encyclopedic. --Poiuyt Man ^talk 19:06, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep All for Characters with significant backstory, list for all minor characters - I'm changing my vote to aree with Poiuyt Man. Characters with mini-bios can be put on one page, characters with significant, fleshed out stories should have their own pages. Bubbachuck 02:24, 27 July 2005 (UTC) Original post: I dont' know if it means anything to vote for a page i worked really hard on, but if anything, Yoshimitsu is NOT just a Tekken character but is prominently featured in the Soul Calibur series as well. He's as important to Namco as Ryu, Ken and Chun Li are to Capcom. I personally don't even think anyone can come up with a good reason to delete these pages. the argument for Keep is so strong: list pages are too long and there's too much known information about each character...the only reason why Lists are created is if there's little information for each item, otherwise we could have "Lists of the Presidents of the United States", "List of States", etc. If any further proof is needed, go to "Edit" of the "List of SC chars" and it says "...this page is >90kb, please shorten..." (paraphrased). With all due respect, I don't think the detractors understand the magnitude of information available for these characters. Strategy alone (and I don't mean FAQ-like but general, informative stuff) could fill up a page. Bubbachuck 18:38, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: "SC characters"? jglc | t | c 18:45, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
    • SC characters = List of Soul Calibur characters. I just realized this specifically was for Tekken chars, which again makes Yoshimitsu's case special because he's feat. prominently in TWO big big franchise games by Namco. stop hating on the individual character pages...let the fans have they want. give them half a year and i guarantee there will enough information to make the type of article that the detractors want. if the detractors keep deleting the indiv pages, they don't have a chance to grow, then the list gets too long, indiv pages get made again, and the cycle repeats. Bubbachuck 18:53, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
      • Ah. Hear hear. jglc | t | c 19:18, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. A lot of Tekken characters have absolutely no personality or history whatsoever (Christie Montiero is a joke), but some cannot be compressed into a tiny paragraph on the List of Tekken characters page.
• Merge all characters with less than a paragraph of information into Tekken characters. Keep it separate from List of Tekken characters, since having descriptions no longer qualifies it as a list. Link to main articles of characters with more detailed information (three paragraphs, at least). --Poiuyt Man ^talk 19:06, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
  • I took this tedious task upon myself, and created Tekken characters. All the content of the minor characters has been merged into that page, and longer descriptions have a main article link. I now vote a weak keep for these characters: Baek Doo San, Julia Chang, Lee Chaolan, Devil Jin, Bryan Fury, Eddie Gordo, Hwoarang, Jin Kazama, Jun Kazama, Asuka Kazama, King (Tekken character), Ling Xiaoyu, Craig Marduk, Heihachi Mishima, Kazuya Mishima, Raven (Tekken character), Anna Williams, Nina Williams, and Yoshimitsu. That's 19 out of 50, and some are still pretty short and could be merged with the article. As for the rest, delete and redirect them. --Poiuyt Man ^talk 20:42, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
    • I second this. Jacoplane 21:13, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Merge into Tekken characters. I think Poiuyt Man's idea is the best. Jacoplane 19:17, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep All Come on. There's a bunch of pages for EVERY character in the Harry Potter, X-Men, Star Trek, and Star Wars universes. A lot of people spend a lot of time creating these pages, and they're nowhere near as widespread as the aforementioned ones. They should be able to stay. User:King Zeal 12:30, 26, July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep-Enough of an argument has been given in here. i don't have to repeat what was already said.ZeWrestler ^Talk 19:45, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep All Please take in account that this is an on-going game-series. It's very likely that someone will add content to every characters page in the future.
  • Comment: then branch those characters off into separate articles when information on them becomes available. For now, most of those characters have very few details. --Poiuyt Man ^talk 08:12, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• Smerge all back to the list article. This is fancruft. -R. fiend 01:31, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - Dont see how this article is doing any harm. -- The Time Killer
• Keep - Never ever ever delte this page plz -- user:202.63.109.2
• Keep longer articles. Merge smaller ones if possible, keep them otherwise. --Kizor 07:22, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep profiles but Redirect overall page. I agree they should be merged akin to other character profile sections. But don't just delete every profile, thats way too harsh. If that were to happen, why not just delete Legend of Zelda's Link profile while we're at it? The Soul Calibur characters, Resident Evil characters, any character profile on Wikipedia? Change the actual placement of the listing a bit yes, but please don't delete the individual profiles. It'd be an enormous and tragic waste of hard work and would be more than a little too harsh. --Kiyosuki 21:32, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.