Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tannin Schwartzstein

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The result was delete. W.marsh 17:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tannin Schwartzstein

Tannin Schwartzstein (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Reason the page should be deleted: non-notable --Pigman (talk • contribs) 22:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

• Agree that the article should be deleted, but my problem is that I was trying to edit the article but couldn't find any information about Schwartzstein from an independent, reliable source. The fact that we apparently needed to link to her WitchSchool article to "verify" that she was clergy (and I question that, because I think that if you state in an article that someone is ordained clergy, you need to specify what they are ordained clergy of) indicates that there is a dearth of verifiable information here. I haven't found any independent review of the books she co-authored on a website that's not trying to sell it. I just don't know how we can do this without it turning into an advert. - AdelaMae ^{(talk - contribs)} 23:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per AdelaMae. Jkelly 23:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The verifiable information seems to be a thimbleful at most. She's authored two books, that's verifiable, and they are published by a popular publisher of neopagan and spiritual books. They do have reviews on Amazon (the one-star review of The Urban Primitive is especially good reading) but that seems to be about it; not much critical reaction anywhere, and I haven't heard mention of them myself. It's also verified that she's taught a class at a spiritual festival, but that's not much; I've taught classes at equivalently sized events, and I don't consider myself notable enough for Wikipedia. Beyond that, things are only verifiable through sites she controls; her WitchVox listing (self-published ad) and her store's website. I don't think once sentence of verifiable info is enough to make a viable article. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 10:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - not notable whatsoever. - WeniWidiWiki 15:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep up-and-coming author and lecturer in the field, published by one of the leading book publishers in that genre. Rosencomet 19:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete she owns a shop and has co-written a couple of books - but hasn't written one entirely by herself. Nothing notable here - Wikipedia is not Yellow Pages. Totnesmartin 13:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Rosencomet. —Hanuman Das 02:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Rosencomet and Hanuman Das. —Ekajati (yakity-yak) 14:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - published author. Frater Xyzzy 19:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:BIO, which dictates we only keep "Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work". Neither reviews or awards are in evidence, as are no other reliable sources, as noted by Morwen. Rosencomet et al. do not address this and do not make any policy-based arguments. Sandstein 05:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.