Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/THE EAGLE (CSA-B)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] THE EAGLE (CSA-B)

Vanity -Nv8200p talk 18:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Note that this AFD also involves the nearly identical article The Eagle (CSA-B). The one in the header has received some editing during the AFD, the other has not yet at this time. GRBerry 03:58, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. The one-sentence mention already at the school's article is sufficient. The rest (i.e., a list of current staffers) is essentially unencyclopedic vanity. --Kinu ^t/_c 19:45, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Student newspapers are influential and important. Many staff members at student newspapers go on to become prominent professional journalists or politicians. This article needs to be expanded, but I think that notability already exists. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 20:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

  Do the math. Say for the US, as I can't generate realistic Phillipine numbers off the top of my head. 50 states (plus territories, etc...) * 100 high schools for state (intentional low ball estimate) * 12 staffers (this page has 11, 12 makes rounder numbers) = 60,000 staffers of school newspapers per year. We don't get that many new prominent journalists or politicians per year, lets estimate high at 6,000 in the U.S., of which we'll say 50% worked their high school newspaper (odds are higher for journalists than politicians, but there are more prominent politicians than journalists), so 3,000 per year. This means 3,000 of 60,000 or 5% of high school staffers go on to become prominent. The intentional biases are to make that number too high. I find 5% extremely unconvincing. I think without the biases the likely real ration is 0.5% to 1%. This argument is totally unconvincing to me, but was certainly original. GRBerry 03:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

• DElete. Honestly, I do not believe students newspaper are always notable. The article does not establish its notability. SYSS Mouse 21:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Student newspapers are influential and important, just not this one in particular. --Musaabdulrashid 03:41, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or Smerge to the school's article. The concept of a student newspaper is encyclopedic. The individual one has to prove it on its own merits, and there is neither an assertion of such merit in the article nor any use of sources of any kind. GRBerry 03:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.