Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swords of Xeen

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No Consensus, defaults to keep. Naconkantari 18:15, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Swords of Xeen

Non-notable fanmade game, fails WP:SOFTWARE. Andre (talk) 00:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, though initially fanmade, this was included in some of 3DO's own later re-releases of the Might and Magic series. Definitely notable. PurplePlatypus 00:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC) NOTE: This vote has been vandalized twice. I don't know anything about the person who did this, but it sure isn't good for the credibility of the Delete side.

• The article does not explain this or cite anything suggesting such notability. Andre (talk) 01:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

• Which is why you have tags such as {{cleanup}} and {{fact}}. AfDs are not a cleanup tool. Havok (T/C/c) 07:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

• Havok, you seem to consistently forget that cleaning up an article is not the responsibility of the people who think it should be deleted. You also overlook that this is a discussion about deleting an article. The comment you replied to was stating why they thought the article should be deleted, as they are supposed to. If someone disagrees, then it is up to THEM to put the proof in the article, which I note that despite making snotty comments about to other people, you yourself never do. So if I were you I would either practice what I preach and clean-up the article myself, seeing as it's you who disagrees with the AfD, or, if your not prepared to do that, stop making snotty little copy+paste comments in AfDs when someone says why they think an article should be deleted. The Kinslayer 09:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete the article claims this was released as part of a compilation with the real titles in the series, but that doesn't necessarily make it canonical. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I don't know whether or not it was fanmade, but this game was released by the publisher, and that makes it an official part of the series. I've got it as part of the collection that came with Might and Magic VI. That makes it a definite keeper. Mister.Manticore 01:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I can provide a screenshot from the game if anybody wants confirmation. Mister.Manticore 01:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. -- moe.RON ^{Let's talk | done} 01:57, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: "Officialness" is a red herring. The criteria for deletion have absolutely nothing to do with canonicity.
• Delete or Merge If it was included as a scenario in a Might and Magic, it MIGHT warrant a mention in the main Might and Magic article. Maybe. But it fails utterly as a stand-alone article. --Jayron32 04:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per Jayron32. Not notable enough for its own article, but being a part of the parent article would make sense. EVula 05:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Per PurplePlatypus. Havok (T/C/c) 07:29, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

• Merge - Official recognition makes it notable to me (provided a link to the information is supplied) but I agree it's not notable enough for it's own article. The Kinslayer 09:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge wherever appropriate if it did indeed appear in an official package, Delete otherwise. Garrett^Talk 09:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep: per Purple & Manticore. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• keep or merge per the purpleplatypus being fanmade should not be reason for prejudice Yuckfoo 01:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment I don't believe that there is any prejudice going on; people ask for sources, like they would in an article for a game published by a company instead of being self-published; sources weren't given. Merge because of retroactive integration into M&M 6 SE but lack of sourcing. ColourBurst 03:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per above. --badlydrawnjeff talk 04:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per PurplePlatypus's comment. --Bakabaka 23:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep is a fangame that was made official canon by 3DO. Not to be confused with Clouds of Xeen (which I did confuse it with). However, I believe this game comes in the M&M 6 Special Edition, which I have, that features the past games of the series.. guitarhero777777 17:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.