Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susan Peters (TV anchor)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 00:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Susan Peters (TV anchor)

Susan Peters (TV anchor) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Does not satisfy WP:BIO. Amnewsboy 08:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - not notable per WP:BIO. She has a few regional Emmy awards, but I don't think that makes her notable enough. Jayden54 13:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - seems notable enough, that's quite a few awards. At least as notable as any other second-tier author or journalist who has won recognition through awards and their work. Tarinth 16:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - FWIW, nominated for deletion by an admitted former co-worker. Strict interpretation of WP:BIO would qualify most television biography stubs of non-national anchors for deletion, including the entire Kansas television personalities category. 64.24.5.161 06:50, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Comment - Personally, I have no qualms with Susan -- I think she's a great anchor... but generally speaking, I don't think local television news anchors meet WP:BIO or WP:N (a similar debate is ongoing over Little Rock anchor Jancey Sheats). Do we write articles about Susan's co-anchors, the other anchors at KAKE, the anchors at the other stations in town, and the other stations in Kansas as well? Amnewsboy 09:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Comment - I just find it strange that Amnewsboy has nominated only two local anchors for deletion: Susan and Jancey. Both from the two previous (smaller) cities where he has worked as a television producer. I presume he now only considers local television personalities from the largest 31 markets to be notable. I think Wikipedia is an appropriate place to chronicle the qualifications and broadcast histories of smaller market anchors. Official biographies listed on station web sites seem to be spun with a bias in favor of their current employer.64.24.4.114 00:25, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Comment - With all due respect -- my professional career has absolutely nothing to do with this. (I have no idea where you got that I ever worked in Little Rock, BTW.) If you have an opinion on the matter in general, I'd suggest voicing in with the WP Television Stations Project to reach some sort of guide that we can all live with -- and please, be civil. Amnewsboy 03:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 03:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep I think the awards tip her into notability for wikipedia purposes...--Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 03:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - This newscaster has won five awards, one listed as an Emmy in 1994 during her 17 year career according to her station bio KAKE Bios Susan Peters including 1994 "Best Reporter Award" from the San Diego Press Club.

Comment I have no opinion but that was a local Emmy which there are a ton of. Quadzilla99 04:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

There are also a ton of Grammy Awards but they're still notable.--Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 06:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep But document to avoid future AfD. --Kevin Murray 04:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete -- I'm really not seeing the notability here, as with WP:PROF, what distinguishes her from any other local anchor (and local Emmys don't cut it for me)? --Dhartung | Talk 06:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

• In addition to the awards, a television anchor is at the top tier of the broadcast journalism profession ("just an anchor" is almost like saying someone is "just a rock star"--sure, the subject of this article is not Dan Rather but we don't limit musicians only to John Lenon either). Add to this the fact that a new anchor is a significant public personality, seen by at least hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions), and I think it's clear that she and anyone similar are way over the minimum bar for Wikipedia notability. Tarinth 19:15, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per Dhartung. Local Emmys don't mean squat really. TJ Spyke 06:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't feel strongly on this one way or the other, but it is an award much more impressive than anything I've ever won - it's not trivial and is widely recognized and I'm a little surprised it's a bone of contention (she won an Emmy, but it's just a local Emmy). --Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 06:38, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete I'm unable to verify the claim of a 1994 national News & Documentary Emmy Award. I looked through the list published in the Los Angeles Times[1], and the only medical-sounding story which won an award was one about "Morgan Medical" by ABC. I looked this up too in Factiva and this story was about medical insurance fraud, not organ transplants. It was also a news investigation which was focussed on Los Angeles (no mention of being in LA in Peters' station bio, and only work for ABC mentioned was in Illinois. It's still possible (but unverified) that she somehow worked on this story's team or that she worked for a winning team which gave its organ transplant story a completely non-medical sounding title. However, we would still need to know what role she played - was she the lead reporter? the junior reporter? the assistant junior reporter? The junior researcher? etc etc

There are 20 regional chapters of the National Television Academy[2]. Using the Nashville/Mid-South chapter as a sampling, each chapter awards 60 Regional Emmys year[3]. As a rough guide, that means that there are 1,200 Regional Emmys awarded annually. This anchor has won 2 Regional Emmys + some more obscure and even more local broadcasting awards (San Deigo Press Club/Best Reporting in Kansas UPI award etc.... The Golden Mic award appears to be a local charity-awareness award? Anyway, unable to verify her receiving this award [4]). I'm skeptical that a regional Emmy award is sufficient indication of encycloppedic notability, and have been unable to verify her winning these awards either. Wikipedia really needs a guideline for assessing awards/prizes/fellowships/contest wins etc though - most of them out there are not encyclopedically notable. Bwithh 06:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete nn. Edeans 07:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Meets WP:BIO. Edison
• Delete Until she hits a major market or has longer tenure merge with network or something. TonyTheTiger 19:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep Don't agree with any discrimination based on market size. I'm satisfied that multiple regional Emmy awards indicate that someone has made a notable contribution to their work, but this claim needs to be sourced, at least to the level of which awards she won, in which years, for what.Eludium-q36 18:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep She's notable enough. I think WP will survive her inclusion! Like to see a few more refs, though . . . --Wehwalt 16:15, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.