Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunshine Coast Grammar School

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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus (default keep). Scimitar parley 16:49, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sunshine Coast Grammar School

Tagged for out-of-process speedy deletion by Lucky 6.9. Keep per wikipedia:Schools/Arguments and don't bite the newbies. Kappa

  • Delete. Substub. Gamaliel 02:42, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, doesn't indicate notability. Gazpacho 02:44, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. No indicia of encyclopedic notability. This vote will change if the article is substantially expanded/improved with verifiable information. -- BD2412 talk 03:15, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, this school may contain the next Prime Minister of Australia
  • Delete the article indicates Aus. location, yet links to a completely unrelated page PMSA. And the next Prime Minister of Australia is going to be Canadian. Nostradamus told me. Hamster Sandwich 03:39, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Article is content-free. --Carnildo 03:56, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as totally lacking content. Even the link points a wrong page. That is why I tagged this as a speedy, not because it's a school and not because I'm "biting newbies." Kappa, I respectfully submit that you don't let your desire to keep any and all school articles let you overlook the fact that I voted to keep a school article earlier today. I'd appreciate your retracting that comment. - Lucky 6.9 06:29, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete per schoolcruft. Proto t c 09:19, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. As it stands, this article provides very little information but I would vote to keep a decent stub on this school established in 1997. The School's website advises that the PMSA in this case refers to the Presbyterian and Methodist Schools Association established under a 1918 Act of the Queensland Parliament and running a number of schools see [1]. Capitalistroadster 10:30, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. VfD is not Requests for expansion. -- Visviva 11:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia articles shouldn't be placeholders either. Substubs aren't needed to have articles created. We already have "requested articles" for that. - Mgm|(talk) 15:22, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, needs expansion. -- Lochaber 11:53, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete boring article, no interesting information, not notable. crap. Dunc|☺ 13:00, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge into school district. — RJH 16:35, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete I see no indication of notability. DES 17:01, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • keep please someone must have expanded it even tho this isnt the place to request that Yuckfoo 17:57, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, nn. --Idont Havaname 18:03, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
    • I voted after the expansion of the article. --Idont Havaname 22:06, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, looks good now. Christopher Parham (talk) 18:59, 2005 July 21 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable like all the others we've kept. Early votes are not based on the article's present form. CalJW 21:23, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Do not discount others' votes, regardless of when they take place. --Idont Havaname 22:06, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
    • It still doesn't look notable or encyclopedic to me, and if other schools of no greater notability have been kept, then i disagree with such decisions. DES 22:24, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep after rewrite. Capitalistroadster 23:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep after rewrite, for the purpose of ending school VfD debates. Xoloz 04:24, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep on keeping the schools. —RaD Man (talk) 05:53, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete there's still no info of note in the article, which must be for a very good reason. -Splash 18:02, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable school. Klonimus 02:50, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
    • What exactly makes it notable? that it is private? That is it is christian? That it has 1100 students? That it was founded in 1997?Or just that it is an actual school? Those seem to be the only claims to notability in the article as it stands. If there are other reasons, do please edit the articel to include them. DES 02:58, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Wikipedia rarely ever deletes school these days. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 18:41, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep I'm a radical inclusionist in relation to secondary schools, I think those who disagree are acting like King Canute. PatGallacher 23:54, 2005 July 23 (UTC)8
  • Delete - to vex irresponsible inclusionists. Mandel 06:05, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
    • Glad to see Vfd voters taking their responsibilities seriously. Kappa 12:36, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
      • Like "Keep after rewrite, for the purpose of ending school VfD debates." is any different. Your POV is showing. Niteowlneils 16:08, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
        • Ending school debates is a legitimate reason for voting, because these debates consume a great deal of time and clog up Vfd. I fail to see how vexing people is a legitimate reason to remove valid content from wikipedia. Kappa 18:04, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
          • Vexing irresponsible inclusionists obviously is. And yes, obvious POV. Mandel 16:28, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Nothing notable in the article. Vegaswikian 23:51, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Title establishes notability. Grace Note 04:20, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Do I understand you to say that any grammer school is inherently notable? If not, what do you mean? DES 05:36, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Even after re-write, article does NOT establish notability. We don't document every professor and scientist--just those who publish notable papers or produce notable advancements in their field, why would we document every grade school regardless of accomplishment? Niteowlneils 16:06, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Please don't make us the next everything2.com--our credibilty will be shot. Niteowlneils 16:10, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
We only document the top 10-20% scientists, professors, musicicans, actors, etc. why make schools different? This rampant inclusionism will only serve to make the critics who said 'Wikipedia will collapse under it own weight' right. Do you really want to help cause the death of Wikipedia? Niteowlneils 16:17, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
  • People have a scale of notability, and wikipedia cannot hope to cover everyone of average notability. Schools are not people, they are more equivalent to villages, and the consensus is that every village that has ever existed has a place in wikipedia. Since wikipedia aims for comprehensive geographic coverage, there is no reason not to aim for comprehensive coverage of education in each location, in fact they enhance each other. Wikipedia should worry about its credibility with real users, not random page browsers. Kappa 17:04, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
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