Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sundown town

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. — CharlotteWebb 03:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sundown town

This is an extremely inflammatory, badly sourced article. It has one key source, a book by a sociology at Vermont, but that source isn't nearly credible enough--heck, it says that all of Idaho qualifies as a whites-only area. This article either needs to be gutted of virtually all the "information" it contains and completely rewritten... or more simply, just to be deleted. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 21:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. Could you elaborate on exactly how the article is 'inflammatory'? Can something be completely factual and still be inflammatory? If so, should all inflammatory content be removed from Wikipedia? — goethean ॐ 22:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment' Glad to. dIt's inflammatory, but more to the point, the source isn't reliable. When one professor, working alone, "discovers" that all of Idaho is a sundown state, and publishes a book on the findings... that's not reliable, that's ridiculous. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 21:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. It's a true designation. And it's not a new one. If you feel like it's not sourced properly, then make it a stub. But it's an important sociological concept. What I'm hearing in your post here is that you don't think it's true. That's fine but it's not a reason to delete the article. As for inflammatory, look at McMansion.

"Negative" articles do exist here. --Woohookitty^(meow) 00:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep but completely rewrite as per the concerns raised here. Of particular concern is that this article, no matter how carefully written it may be, will run the risk of portraying American racism as exclusively a small-town and rural phenomenon, alien to big cities. Whoever winds up writing this article had better be very, very careful. Bigturtle 01:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I did a little bit of fleshing out of the subject matter. One problem we run into is that as Loewen's book states, not alot of research has been done on this subject, hence the heavy reliance on his book. --Woohookitty^(meow) 03:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, improve. The article as it stands has issues, but so does at least a quarter of Wikipedia. The topic is perfectly valid. - Jmabel | Talk 21:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.