Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sovereign Grand Lodge of Malta

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The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS, which defaults to KEEP Paul August ☎ 22:48, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sovereign Grand Lodge of Malta

Delete It seems that the article is copied from somewhere. Suggest deletion. The site proves to be somewhat as an advert and to freemasons in Malta.

I note that even a postal address was included.

What shall we do? Maltesedog 14:31, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

This page is a very problematic one since it is very obvious that there is an ego trip going on between some Maltese masonic contributors to this page.

The long list of edits and very nasty allegations and name dropping on such a delicate subject as Freemasons in Malta, can have severe repercussions on innocent Masons who do not even know about this page and who are being mentioned on it.

Shame on these supposed Masons who jeopardise other innocent Maltese masons.

My suggestion: Deletion and bar user 217.15.96.18 for good from Wikipedia. Apart from a lot of copyright violations, he is jeopardising innocent people and re-writing 'history' as it suits him. And this not only with regards to masons in Malta.

• Delete. This is not an unencyclopeidc topic, but this article should not be in Wikipedia. If someone is willing to re-write it to address the identified problems of copyright violation and advertising, which I have done for other artilces in the past, then it could stay. I'm not willing to do that for this article, so unless someone else is this week, delete. Ground Zero | t 14:59, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, per Ground Zero. Dottore So 17:30, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This is blatantly a copyvio from somewhere Google doesn't pick up. This article is clearly not the place to start, and there is clearly some Maltese funniness going on today. -Splash 18:02, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep following cleanup by someone who knows what they're doing and can keep an NPOV head on their shoulders. Maltese funniness is not a criterion for deletion; Freemasonry is a notable topic and so by derivation, local developments, including schisms, are notable. Malta needs more coverage in general anyway. -EDM 05:46, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

• • More coverage? I work day and night on Wikipedia sites related to Malta. I check, vandalism etc. I don't think an article which proclaims to be done by a mason - is the right work for wikipidea. There should be a general article (which i'm not prepared to do myself, because I don't have a clue on masonry in Malta, but not one which provides a mailing address. This is pure advertisment Maltesedog 19:29, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
• Against my better judgement, as for reasons I cannot begin to comprehend, I have attempted a re-write to make this worth keeping. I will leave it to others to decide if my work is acceptable. Although I think I've done the bulk of the heavy lifting, I invite further edits to bring this up to WIkipedia standards. Ground Zero | t 01:01, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Congratulation to Ground Zero for his excellent work on the matter. The article looks fine now, and I'm removing the afd. I will review the article personally later on with some annotations although it looks perfectly well. Wikipedia needs people like Ground Zero. Maltesedog 12:18, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.