Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Lower Saxony national football team

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 18:06, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] South Lower Saxony national football team

South Lower Saxony national football team (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Yet another unverifiable article on a nonnotable football team. "South Lower Saxony" is not the German Bundesland of Lower Saxony but, according to the German Wikipedia, a vaguely defined geographical region within it. Sandstein 23:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Nominator's comment: I know I could just PROD or speedy all these pseudo national teams per WP:CSD#A7, but given that there's still more of them, I gather it's better to first hear what the community thinks before hammering away on the delete button. Sandstein 23:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. Edison 23:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. ChrisTheDude 00:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete A7. For what it's worth, a lot of smaller football clubs have fallen to {{db-group}}, which tells me that there is enough precedent to remove it. --Dennisthe2 00:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as team that has never played a match and whose existence is not verifiable. Will also endorse a speedy. Qwghlm 00:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment, being an associate member of the NF-Board (see here) is, in my eyes, some sort of claim of notability, but I am concerned about the lack of third party sources. – Elisson • T • C • 01:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Is this on the German Wikipedia?--Osidge 12:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it appears to be there. WMMartin 17:56, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete without prejudice to re-creation. I strongly feel that the topic of this article is potentially notable: the area in question is indeed not the German land, but a purported non-independent nation occupying territory presently German. The NF-Board appears to encompass other, more well-known, quasi-nations such as Greenland and Chechnya, and the organisation seems to exist to provide a forum for the "national" football activities of such non-independent and unrecognised "nations". I imagine we would feel comfortable including an article on the Chechen national team, if it existed and had played "quasi-international" matches or local "friendlies", a criterion which has clearly been met here. I should note, btw, that Qwghlm is wrong when he says the team has never played a match: matches appear to have been played: see the team's website. However, while the subject is borderline notable, I am still plumping for deletion in this case for one simple reason: inadequate references supporting notability, from sources other than the team's own website. ( My own suspicion is that the purported "nation" of South Lower Saxony will never exist, but that would be crystal-balling, so plays no part in my decision. ) WMMartin 17:56, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.