Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Liverpool F.C.

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep.  (aeropagitica)   (talk)  14:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] South Liverpool F.C.

Fails WP:CORP, at 12th position, notability for English football clubs is 10th position. Club is also not even in existence anymore. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 13:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. NawlinWiki 14:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC) Keep per discussion below, particularly Chris's argument. NawlinWiki 14:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand because of their history, which included winning the Welsh Cup. Keresaspa 14:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - they played for a number of years in the Northern Premier League, which is a level 7 league (and in fact would have been even higher than that at the time they played in it as the Conference North had not been formed). I believe that clubs should be allowed to retain their articles if they have played at a level higher than 11 but then dropped below that level - if Manchester United were to drop to level 11 through some extremely unlikely sequence of events, they wouldn't cease to be notable. Also, if a club was notable in "life", I don't feel they cease to become notable if they subsequently fold. ChrisTheDude 14:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Well, of course that should be the case, but the article didn't make it terribly clear, however, that it had been a 7th-level team, and it was unfortunately swept up in my attempt to clean up the football cruft. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 15:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
10th level (i.e. in the English league structure), not 10th position. It is a consensus among the community contributing to football articles that clubs above that level are inherantly notable. Clubs below that level have to have added reasons for notability (e.g. history, as I would argue is the case re South Liverpool F.C.) (see many many other afd discussions). Robotforaday 18:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Apparently it's here ChrisTheDude 14:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
The level 10 criterion is one that hasn't exactly been carved in stone yet; also, all it means is that clubs above that level are inherently notable - it does not mean that all clubs below that level are inherently non-notable. — sjorford++ 17:08, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable past as per numerous News of the World Football Annuals. Catchpole 15:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable past and the club still exists at the second level (12 level overall) of the Liverpool County Premier League. --Balerion 16:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Winner of Welsh Cup, and also arguably important in their time as a direct provider of numerous first team players to Liverpool F.C. Robotforaday 18:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Alias Flood 22:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Historical notability makes this a bona fide article -- Alias Flood 22:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Historically notable, they used to be one of the biggest non-league clubs in England. Needs expanding, though.--Stevefarrell 19:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
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