Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Somari

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  21:17, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Somari

Another Pirate/ROM hack with nothing but graphic changes. These kinds of games do not deserve their own article, because any one over the age of 4 could do this. Newspaper98 20:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• delete per nom M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 22:48, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I guess that, hypothetically, pirated games are more notable than ROM hacks because they're at least sold in stores (albeit "under the counter") as opposed to just passed around on Kazaa or whatever. Still nowhere near notable enough for an article though. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Gogo Dodo 00:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. RandyWang (^raves/_{review me!}) 03:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. RandyWang (^raves/_{review me!}) 03:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete No evidence of notability. Ace of Sevens 12:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, possible Speedy - Somari only returns 225 000 hits on Google[1]. --Kuroki Mio 2006 19:22, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - As Non-notable. I would like to point out however this AfD doesnt list a reason for it to be deleted, not a valid one at least. Because many people can do it, is not a legit reason to delete articles. --zero faults ^{|sockpuppets|} 12:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

do NOT delete. This article does not contain anything promoting illegal behavior, or an explanation of how to do so. Just because something is illegal doesn;t mean it's existence shouldn't be documented.

• Comment Were not deleting it because its illegal or not illegal, the fact is its just Sonic with the graphic of Mario. Anyone can do that. Newspaper98 01:06, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete not notable. --Stellmach 17:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, it's one of the more notable hacks/pirates, has had mentions on bigger sites, such as Sonic Cult, and anybody who says "It's just Sonic with Mario" doesn't know what they're talking about, seeing as it's also running on NES hardware. Shadic 14:58, 1 August 2006.
• Keep as per consensus in 2004 deletion nomination, for same reasons- it's notable now, through emulation, it doesn't promote, describe, encourage, etc. illegal activities, it's an impressive programming feat, etc. And 225,000 hits on Google seems like it should be notable enough to warrant some mention on an infinitely large encyclopedia. Notability is carried way too far sometimes. But I digress. CrossEyed7 03:10, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Probably one of the most notable pirate games. Also, it was sold commercially (even if illegally,) and has recieved some media attention (as evidenced by the 225,000 google hits.) Were it one of those hack pirate games like the ones where only a character were replaced (I remember one pirate was a hack of some action game and they just changed the character graphic to Mario and called it "Super Mario Bros. 9" or something like that,) I would vote delete. Y0u | Y0ur talk page 04:57, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This is one of the most well known pirate cartridges, and isn't a simple sprite hack, as they ported Sonic onto the NES, with some pretty impressive results. I simply don't believe a 5 year old could reverse-engineer Sonic the Hedgehog and port it to a piece of hardware with worse system specifications. The nomination is under the assumption that this is a simple graphics hack, and that's simply not the case. -MysticEsper 05:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Ditto. Infamous hack, this. AMHR285^(talk) 06:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom.--Peta 09:16, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete This just isn't notable. Thε Halo ^Θ 11:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.