Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smack-Off

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Keep. - Bobet 13:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smack-Off

It's a contest on a radio show. Recury 21:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose - I gave my reasoning for this in the AfD for the individual Smack-Off articles, but I'll put it back here. This article is a supporting article for The Jim Rome Show, and the contest is no small, rinky-dink matter. The contest is a yearly feature of the show, ties directly into one of the principal features of the show's content (namely the "smack talk" that Rome uses), and is a source of multi-national attention given that the show broadcasts into both the USA and Canada and attracts participants from both countries. The article is in need of copyediting, but should stay. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 22:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It would probably have to have a good level of media coverage (besides that from the show itself, of course) for most people here to consider it notable. Recury 03:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge or Delete A contest that happens once a year on a mildly notable (if notable at all) radio show does not deserve its own page.--Nick Y. 00:34, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments - Since the show (and, thusly, the Smack-Off) has been around since the mid '90s, is carried on over 200 affiliate stations through Premiere Radio Networks, is heard in both the US, Canada, and pretty much worldwide through Podcasting, and Rome has both a show on ESPN and The Jim Rome Show, and hundreds of athletes from several different sports have participated in interviews on both shows, the description "mildly notable" is...well, just silly. Additionally, Fox Sports radio host J.T. the Brick got his notoriety through this contest, as he was its first winner. I'd also like to point out that the comment about "most people" is a rather arrogant assumption. While I'm sure that most of the people who are members of Wikipedia could give a toss about anything related to Rome (and I'm assuming that that's the case with the people who are suddenly up in arms about these articles), the average joe's curiosity about the radio show and the activities that are associated with it deserves to be sated. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 04:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. "It's a contest on a radio show" is not per se a valid reason to delete. The smack-off is an annual event, and the biggest day of the year on a very popular radio show. It deserves an article. TacoDeposit 16:37, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • OK, I'll rephrase. Contests on radio shows are not notable and don't deserve articles. Recury 17:39, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Again, being a contest on a radio show doesn't per se make something undeserving of an article. TacoDeposit 18:10, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Other than the fact that it is a radio contest why is it up for deletion? The contest has been going on since 1996 - it's not some lame game you hear on your local sports radio show. It is a syndicated show. Also, if you attempted to merge this with Jime Rome or The Jim Rome Show both articles would become excessively lengthy to the point of having to be massively edited. --NRK 17:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • That is the only reason why it is up for deletion. Articles on radio show contests are not encyclopedic in any way (unless they are related to some newsworthy event; the other radio host being discovered wouldn't come close to qualifying as newsworthy) because Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. That is what people mean when they say articles are non-notable. Recury 18:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.