Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Similarities between Judaism, Islam, and Christianity

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Proto///type 10:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Similarities between Judaism, Islam, and Christianity

This page is inherently original research and cannot be NPOV'd. It reads more like the outline for a (potentially interesting but not Wiki-material) tract about comparative religion than an encyclopedia article. Delete as original research. JDoorjam Talk 06:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom as unsuitable to ever be npov and not OR.--Fuhghettaboutit 07:12, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, miserably fails WP:NPOV or WP:NOR. --Coredesat talk 07:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination or, as a second choice, redirect to Abrahamic religion. --Metropolitan90 07:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above; POV and original research--TBCTaLk?!? 07:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep because this type of comparation is well established in the religionistics and philosophy since 19th century at least (e.g. Max Weber wrote whole books about this theme, but he had of course many predecessors). So it is not original research, it is only unsourced. Regarding the POV - it can be corrected by citing the appropriate sources a making exact citations. In my opinion, the article is not unsalvable and the theme is reasonably well rooted in the scholarly tradition of Comparative Religion. It should be perhaps marked by NPOV and Unsourced, but not deleted.--Ioannes Pragensis 08:05, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Week keep Probably better to conceive of (rename) this as a comparison, not list of similarities. Not a bad idea, just needs work and sources. SM247 08:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or merge per [[[User:Ioannes Pragensis]]. Only reservation is that we do have an article Abrahamic religions, and I suspect a thorough read would reveal a lot of duplication. David L Rattigan 08:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete in light of the above, no need to keep. SM247^{My Talk} 09:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or merge per Ioannes Pragensis. I think that setting out an explicit table of similarities and differences is a good idea; I agree that such a comparison _could_ go into the main Abrahamic religion article, but I don't see any real disadvantage in giving it an article to itself. Tevildo 10:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Comment: I am slightly against the proposed merge because both articles - if elaborated enough - would be rather voluminous. - I think that a good idea is to move the discussed article to a better name; this one is really not well chosen. --Ioannes Pragensis 10:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Comment. I think there is probably so much overlap, a merge would not involve a huge increase in volume. David L Rattigan 11:48, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

The material may be the same, but the organization will vary. The article about "similarities" tends to be a comparative table, organized around small topics, while the article about Abrahamic religions is narrative and the scope of its chapters is rather broader. There are "table" articles here, e.g. Comparative military ranks of World War II, and they are IMHO not bad - so why not to do the same in the religionistics?--Ioannes Pragensis 12:08, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete unless this get verification added to the article before close of AfD. Right now I have to assume this is original research unless sourcing is provided.--Isotope23 13:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment not a reason for deletion, but the Differences section is such a gross oversimplification of the Christian worldview and contains so many outright falicies that it needs to be completely rewritten if this is kept. I can't speak for the Jewish content, but the Islamic content appears to be greatly misleading as well.--Isotope23 13:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment agree, the whole article is full of nonsense and oversimplification by now. But many good articles started like this... --Ioannes Pragensis 13:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Comment, like I said above, I can't endorse keeping this unless it gets sourced, but if it gets kept outright or on a "no consensus", I'll hit it with the edit stick... I just really don't want to do a major edit if the article is going to get deleted.--Isotope23 14:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete this is a rather clear-cut case of original research - lots of claims backed up only by the editors themselves. RN 16:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as WP:NOR. I'd suggest starting again as a section in Abrahamic religions. NPOV and NOR issues can be worked out there. If it becomes large enough, or the tone is divergent enough, then it can be separated out easily as a full-blown article. Ted^Talk/_{Contributions} 18:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to Abrahamic religions Eluchil404 19:47, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

• Merge as a section under this heading to Abrahamic religions as per Ted or Keep and change heading to theories on Comparative Religion as per Ioannes Pragensis. Tiamut 20:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.