Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Signal Hill Elementary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 00:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signal Hill Elementary School

Signal Hill Elementary School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

NN elementary school, no outside sources, directory entry. Shimeru 00:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, magnet school. Failing that merge per WP:SCHOOLS, WP:LOCAL, WP:Not a battlefield etc. Kappa 00:32, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Magnet school is not a reason to keep by itself. WP:SCHOOLS does not have a consensus behind it. I fail to see how WP:NOT is relevant. JoshuaZ 21:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
• keep or merge to local. Please consider the number of times a fight has been started by nominating a school, then read WP:POINT. Wikipedia is better served if you submit the article to WP:SCH for improvement instead of nominating for deletion. Unfocused 00:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete No claim of notability. Schools do not all need Wikipedia articles. They may be mentioned in an article about the city.Edison 00:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Good school and has been recognized (with a lot of other schools) as such, but not particularly notable. JChap2007 02:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete No assertion of notability, and many schools are magnet schools. TJ Spyke 02:52, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 02:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I may have jumped the gun on this one. Striking out my comment pending further research. --Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 04:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom is not notable TheRanger 04:22, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as a California Distinguished School and magnet school, this is notable enough for me. Yamaguchi先生 04:49, 4 November 2006
• Keep, WP:SCH, magnet school, notable school. --Terence Ong _{(T | C)} 04:50, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment WP:SCH is a project it is not a reason to keep. Furthermore, there is no reason why magnet schools should be inherently notable. JoshuaZ 21:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Elementary schools are not inherently notable, and there is no evidence this school has any claim to fame. Resolute 04:53, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per reasons discussed in several AfD's above. Also, my good faith is flagging; the sheer number of these school AfD's begins to seem like someone is making a Point. --Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 05:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete not notable by any recognizable measure. Valrith 05:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per DocTropics... I agree with the WP:POINT statement entirely.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 07:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy close This has the S word in the title so will never get consensus delete. It can go one of two ways: merge, or expand. Neither requires admin powers. And no, I do not think we should have articles on elementary schools, but there will always be holdouts who assert that "all schools are notable" and frankly we have better things to do with our time than continually documenting the existence of a group of users who will never allow any article with "school" in the title to be deleted. Merge and move on. Guy 11:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Dito Well said - you can tell an adult why their club or company isn't listed, but to any schoolkid, their school is notable. What's more, it is the schools which are most likely to put in the other details of the locale - so why on earth is this up for AfD? --Mike 18:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Disagree here. We have had some schools deleted in the last few months. It does occasionally happen. JoshuaZ 21:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete If we give up on middle schools, where do we draw the line? Let's have a clear policy that school-crufters can be directed to. One with the S word in the title, perhaps. IronDuke 19:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - elementary schools are notable. --Ineffable3000 23:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Excuse me? Do you have a justification for this? Also, note that the claim a year ago was that colleges were inherently notable, then it became highschools and now its elementary schools. Is this going to move onto daycares and kindergartens next? JoshuaZ 21:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom; WP:HOLE. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:03, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
• Merge information into Signal Hill, California and/or Long Beach Unified School District. --JohnDBuell 18:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Above and beyond meeting the WP:SCHOOLS guidelines, the school has received several awards that constitute explicit claims of notability. Alansohn 19:07, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete (would not object to merging in principal). The awards the school has are by and large minor. The "National Achieving Schools Award" and the "California Achieving Schools Award" don't return any google hits aside from schools that say they have them and Wikipedia mirrors. I can't even find a single newspaper article mentioning that a school was given one. The only award which therefore is arguably at all noteworthy is the California Distinguished School award. However, as far as I can tell the number of schools which get this award is immense. There are so many schools award that the award's webpage breaks them out by county [1]. Picking a county at random, Los Angeles county has over two pages worth of schools with the award [2]. This is a good elementary school where someone should be happy sending their kids, but it isn't notable. JoshuaZ 21:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Minor clarification Looking in more detail, Los Angeles county may not have been a representative sample. Some counties such as this one have very few schools with the award. Still every county has more than 1 school with the award and most counties have over a page so the basic point stands. JoshuaZ 21:04, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Cribcage 05:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Is there some reason that you are saying that? Remember, AfD is not a vote. JoshuaZ 05:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Alkivar, etc. --Myles Long 17:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Yamaguchi and Alansohn, obvious claims to notability are made within the article. Silensor 23:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
• Deletenn school. Carlossuarez46 21:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.