Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sie and hir

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus, defaulting to keep. STANDARD DISCLAIMER: THIS DEFAULTS TO KEEP AND DOES NOT PRECLUDE A MERGE OR REDIRECT. DO NOT CITE THIS AFD IN THE FUTURE WHEN OPPOSING OR SUPPORTING A MERGE/REDIRECT/WHATEVER. Johnleemk | Talk 13:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sie and hir

Uncommon fictional neologism Garglebutt / (talk) 07:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. The coverage at Gender-neutral pronoun is more than sufficient. Garglebutt / (talk) 07:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Uncommon, but it's usage has supposedly been around since the 1930s. — TheKMan^talk 08:04, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Hardly a neologism since they've been around for decades, they're pretty common as far as gender neutral pronouns go Night Gyr 10:24, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

New is a relative term but this could be more accurately described as a protologism which further supports this afd. Garglebutt / (talk) 10:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I concur, an unsuccessful protologism. --Agamemnon2 12:07, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. There's a lot of valuable content that's not in gender neutral pronoun, and far too much to be merged. ×Meegs 10:57, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into Gender-neutral pronoun and use as redirect (along with Sie and Hir, which currently redirect to Sie and hir). The terms are used and have been for quite some time, but not widely. Certainly not fictional, but the information is better served on the one page. As artificially-created gender-neutral pronouns they deserve considerable coverage on the g-np page, but probably are not worth a separate article. A similar case could (should?) be made for Xe (pronoun), Ve (pronoun), and the Spivak pronoun. Grutness...wha? 12:48, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge as above. "Sie" and "Hir" were actually used fairly commonly on certain Usenet groups at one time. AnonMoos 13:50, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep interesting expansion of Gender-neutral pronoun, can give usage details and sources that would be too detailed there. Kusma (討論) 13:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above. --Terence Ong 14:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Noteworthy proposal, even if it is silly and quixotic. Smerdis of Tlön 15:00, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per Grutness. bikeable (talk) 15:34, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per Grutness. Spivak might deserve its own article, though. Madame Sosostris 18:16, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep probably is too detailed for Gender-neutral pronoun -- Astrokey44|talk 23:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep It's useful and detailed enough to merit its own article. Kimun 06:05, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per Grutness, makes good sense since much of the contents at present seems distinctly trivial. Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] AfD? 16:28, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This page has more detail than would be appropriate to merge into gn-p. In fact I thought this page also used to mentioned Zie, which is a RDR, but I can't find it now. pfctdayelise 22:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or merge. -Sean Curtin 02:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.