Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Set n forget cooker

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS, default to keep. JIP | Talk 09:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Set n forget cooker

After listing the article for proposed deletion, I was messaged by the author, and have given the article this chance to have its merits debated. I see allowing an article on one individual product as setting a bad precedent for allowing anything commercial but non-notable on Wikipedia in future. Harro5 10:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep and cleanup This article is strange and somewhat confusing: it has a wealth of good pictures but very little text describing exactly what it is and how it relates to other similar devices. This describes a very large commercial device, but I've seen the "set n forget" label applied to normal small countertop cookers as well, the sort one might find in a home kitchen. Are those part of the same brand line, or has the term become generic? This article could use a great deal of clearification, but I think it's a good start toward describing a notable type of product. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge anything useful to Deep frying or Deep fat fryer. I have added a couple of the pictures there -- Astrokey44|talk 13:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per above. --Terence Ong 16:14, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per Astrokey44.--Isotope23 19:06, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

*Delete, and Userfy for now per creator's message. Bad precedent. Are all those pics legal? Herostratus 00:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC) Changing my vote, see below. Firstly, all the pictures are legal. They have been donated by the company and also fall under the promotional material fair usage policy.

• Keep The product is not an ordinary deep fryer with a hand-held basket. This was a unique automatic deep fryer that tried to eliminate some perceived drawbacks of traditional deep fryer systems. Unfortunatly the product design never reached sales expectations and went out of production in the mid-to-late 1970's.

I believe it is an important time capsule on the history of deep fryers. I have added a background section to clarify its importance. I can't prove 100% another automatic deep fryer existed before this one, however, if the article is maintained it doesn't stop another person disputing another one was in existence before this one. A patented was pending... as it states on one of the brochures, however, the patent application would have eventually be cancelled once the company ceased production of the deep fryers. Ashleyjoyce 06:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Keep. Changing my vote based on 1) article has been expanded and improved, 2) Creator of article seems to be a dedicated good-faith editor and I do not want to discourage her, 3) arguments that the product represents a valid innovation in a commercial process are may have some validity. Also, article does not seem to be spam, However, I do have reservations and would like to see the material used instead to expand the "commercial frying" (or whatever we have) article and/or the article on the inventor... I do not like to vote Merge as a rule, I'm kind of on the border so I vote Keep but weakly. Herostratus 04:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, articles on "Commercial Deep Frying" or Commercial Deep Fryer do not exist. I did add a redirection from the keword search "automated deep frying".

This innovation really should have its own class anyway, its not generic. It can't be class as a standard deep fryer that uses hand-held baskets or like the home deep fryers that use tongs to handle the fried food. Its a machine that automates the deep frying process. I was hoping that over time people might expand further on the topic of automated deep fryers. Is there any other like this being actively marketed?? Were other similar products ever sold prior to the 1970's etc. It adds some trivia to the field of deep frying. 210.8.99.100 07:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

• keeep moderately notable. Mukadderat 18:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.