Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Second War (Harry Potter)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 10:40, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second War (Harry Potter)

Delete WP:NOT a J.K. Rowling book. This is a recapitulation of a giant chunk of Harry Potter, I guess. Details of a fictional book do not belong here, nor should we merge it anywhere. Note, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First War (Harry Potter), the result of which was delete. Through AfD'ing it, I came across this article. The rationale is identical, of course. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 05:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Not notable. DarthVader 05:20, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Yanksox 05:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, per nom. - Motor (talk) 12:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete fancruft KleenupKrew 12:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per fancruft and precedent Ydam 13:02, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete fan-created unsourced neologism. Information duplicates book summaries. Rain74 14:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Sorry, but I don't quite understand this. "Fan-created unsourced neologism" roughly translates to a new coining of something (namely, "Second War"), which is not sourced by the books and instead created by fans. Please read my explanation in my vote below to see why this is utterly wrong. --Fbv65edel ^{(discuss | contribs)} 14:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Sorry for my short explanation. The article is basicially a short summary of books 1 to 6, focusing on the war against Voldemort, which is the main plot element of the books anyway. As such, all the information is already available on character pages (particularily Harry Potter (character) and Lord Voldemort) and pages about individual books. That's why I think this article is redundant. Rain74 15:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
• Superstrong transwiki to b:Muggles' Guide to Harry Potter. WP:NOT paper either. This is valuable information of the battles/showdowns between Harry and Voldemort that take place within the current timeline of the series (between PS and HBP). I don't believe it belongs in Wikipedia either, but the information is vital to the series understanding and belongs somewhere in WP's compilation of Harry Potter stuff. This is not "fancruft" either, please watch your terminology. "Fancruft," by definition at WP:CRUFT, is "content […] of importance only to a small population of enthusiastic fans of the subject in question." This would imply this is a minor thing which HP fans like to see on WP. It is not. It is a selection of key events in the series. Please take note of this as you vote. Thank you. (PS: Wikibooks is a bit lacking in information as well, and this would be a good boost to their plot section.) --Fbv65edel ^{(discuss | contribs)} 14:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • You don't need the AfD process to transwiki. Go ahead and do it if you think it should be done. I am sure the closing admin on the first war's AfD will gladly allow you to see the contents of the deleted article so you could transwiki it. The question for us here is whether to retain this on WP. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 16:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Aha. Got it. Thanks for the info. I actually have the contents of both pages on User:Fbv65edel/Keep!. Delete then. --Fbv65edel ^{(discuss | contribs)} 16:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.