Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scifi Modelers Club of New Zealand

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Babajobu 07:05, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scifi Modelers Club of New Zealand(now at Stella Nova)

Delete - Non-notable. Google search brings up three hits, all from old Wikipedia pages. First link provided does not match description, and search on "Phillipa Boyens" with relevant items from the article turns up no hits. Other than images on author's website that claim to be from this project, nothing is verifiable or sourced anywhere else. MikeWazowski 04:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

• I have no problem with the Stella Nova article, as they do seem to have a verifiable presence. I still can't find any references to Boyens' involvement online, though. MikeWazowski 05:04, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as per nom. Bobby1011 04:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as unverifiable. Furthermore, the article is mainly about fan videosSpeedy delete as no assertion of notability is made. Further, it appears to be an unverifiable. I will tag it with a nn-bio tag. On second thoughts, the claim that a video is available is an assertion of notability as is the claim about Boyens working on Lord of the Rings so I will stick with my original delete. Keep as Stella Nova following Grutness's stirling work. Capitalistroadster 05:09, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletions. -- Capitalistroadster 05:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC)"
• Speedy Delete. I don't think making a fan video is a claim to notability. Changed vote as now group claims membership and has Google hits. I still don't see notability. Does it hold conventions? What exactly are the membership levels here? Ifnord 14:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Ifnord. Changed vote to Keep. There are many google hits, reinforcing its notablity. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 15:52, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. Philippa Boyens (not Phillipa) was the screenwriter of the recent Lord of the Rings movies. -ikkyu2 (talk) 17:14, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Stella Nova. I'm pleased to be able to cast this vote; I think this is the sort of notable yet somewhat obscure organization that deserves not to be overlooked by Wikipedia. -ikkyu2 (talk) 23:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. i note that this is not listed in her credits on IMDb. There are real verifiability problems with this article. Capitalistroadster 18:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
• Other than the Star Trek "fan videos" that seems to be singular rather than plural, this is a "nn-club". No indication of notability (since non-canon fanfic doesn't meet WP:FICT) except an unverified claim of involving someone who later became somewhat notable. Delete per WP:FICT, not speedy since anything Star Trek of the claimed scale is notable to a bunch of fans even if not canon. Barno 19:53, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Changed vote to Keep moved article, and expand, per Grutness' corrections. Could use more documentation of notability inside SF&F and within the broader world, such as major-media coverage of their conventions and fav-videos. Barno 03:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Non-notable - I can't find any independent references to this anywhere. Boyens' "involvement" was added for this entry, but again, I can find no independent evidence of it. The club may have been renamed into this (based on a mention here), but nothing on their site mentions this project. The current article is fine with me, so long as the information included can ve verified. TheRealFennShysa 16:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete nn club.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 00:55, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - but move to proper name. The club is called "Stella Nova" - and gets many thousands of google hits under that name. It used to be called the "Science Fiction Modellers' Club of New Zealand" until about five years ago, and has never been called "Scifi" anything, or spelt its name incorrectly with only one "l"! This is New Zealand's second biggest science fiction society, BTW. Grutness...wha? 01:36, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
  • "Modelers" is an acceptable spelling in American English. Not in Kiwi, apparently ;) -ikkyu2 (talk) 02:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Club's magazine appears to be held by a couple of libraries. --Limegreen 03:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. My connection with this New Zealand scifi club was several years ago with it's fan video, Uss Essex. If you want first hand info contact the Thomas' Kimihouse website. I am glad my initial entry could be helpful to start the ball rolling. I think this is how Wiki should work. Netwriter 07:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep at Stella Nova, since it seems sufficiently notable. -Colin Kimbrell 04:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep at Stella Nova per Grutness. -- Avenue 00:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.