Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schoolhouse Press

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was NO CONSENSUS TO DELETE. Knitting, good grief. Seems like a pretty dubious article to me, but Addere's note that we carry lots of very small publishers is a good point. The article does show a couple of third-party mentions, albeit in Knitters Review Forum and Knitters Magazine, which I suppose are not towering presences on the American literary scene. No resolution in either numbers or arguments. Herostratus 16:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Schoolhouse Press

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I originally tagged this as a speedy, but Elizabeth Zimmermann appears to be somewhat notable, is her self-publishing company (about knitting) notable enough? Canley 15:01, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Delete: advertisement. Just mention this company in Elizabeth Zimmermann's article is more than enough. Causesobad → (Talk) 16:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
• Unravel. Speedy G11 probably applies, but anyway it's not notable. YechielMan 17:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep: Granted the item needs more content but it's not really a self-publishing company. It's one of the most established publishers in its field and is as notable as many of the other publishing companies included here. As well, it's a subject of professional curated shows [1]. Addere 21:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as inadequately referenced/sourced. No objection to re-creation later if notability can be proven. WMMartin 15:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: For small, specialty presses this seems to be a slippery slope. All of these articles, for example, have similar shaky notability statements and don't cite independent sources: Collier Books, Ethos Books, Frew Publications, Grove/Atlantic Inc., Headpress, Hubert Burda Media, Informa plc, Island press, Jippi Comics, Joshua's Dream Corporation, Kissena Park Press, Luna Publications, Marick Press, A. C. McClurg, Natural History Publications (Borneo), Oceana Publications, Otter Press, Paolini International, Passagen Verlag, Peter Lang, Podiobooks.com, Prous Science, Sterling Publishing, Tartarus Press, Teach Yourself, Thelema Press, Tre Publishing House, Velocity Magazine, Wilderness Press, Xoanon Publishing, and Yapi Kredi Publications. Addere 16:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
• keep I added the show mentioned above, a second show, and articles in two online magazines. This is sufficient by WP standards. It is not easy to find references to publishers on Google (as distinct from their many books). DGG 03:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

For the record, Peter Lang is a standard academic publisher in the humanities, one of the few independents still surviving. Island Press is a notable non-profit conservation publisher. Grove/Atlantic is a very important literary publisher--just look at the authors they publish, and the fame of their pre-merge Grove Press. The rest I don't recognize, but others will. There are several hundred thousand articles that don't cite sources. I've just fixed the 3 I've mentioned. DGG 03:05, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.