Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samuel Green (rapper)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. - Bobet 12:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Samuel Green (rapper)

Fails notability test as musician or as University radio programme presenter. Fails google test. Springnuts 13:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Danny Lilithborne 18:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, fails the everything test. RFerreira 19:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• DO NOT DELETE This article clearly demonstrates that Samuel Green has been and will continue to be an influential personality both in the field of rap music and in the domain of Zionist activism. Green's popularity is wide and expanding: his web presence is substantial, his radio show is widely popular, and he has received the assistance and endorsement of many very notable musicians and Jewish leaders. Clearly, the Wikipedia-reading public deserves to know about Samuel Green, his music, and his politics as presented in this article. --66.65.185.70 13:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
• DON'T DELETE In addition to Samuel Green's many high-profile radio guests, note Samuel Green's significant coverage in the popular press: (list from his website)

'Hebe hop's where it's at' - The Metro, 14.03.06

'The Rapper From Cambridge' - Ma'ariv, 10.04.05

'Hip-Hop's Jew Crew Takes Centre Stage' - Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles, 10.12.04

'Antithesis - His Story From the Beginning' - Frenzy, February 2004

'Rapping For Israel' - London Jewish News, 27.02.04

'Seven Days in Arts' - Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles, 23.01.04

'Israel Rapper Sets the Record Straight' - Jewish Chronicle, 23.01.04

'Sam Raps Out Israel Questions' - Jewish Telegraph, 09.01.04

'Rapping For Our Rights' - London Jewish News, 18.01.02

'Hip Hop Home' - Ha'aretz, 04.01.02

Also, Samuel Green passes the notability test for musicians in multiple ways: First, he has a weekly two hour radio program (thus, he receives more than the required media exposure time.) In this vein, his radio program's podcast is quite popular as per Apple subscription rankings. Furthermore, he has been the subject of a BBC biography program. Additionally, Green has created something of a new genre with his politically charged rap music; "The Zionist Rapper" is a novel phenomenon.

Green's poor performance in the "Google test" is simply the result of the commonality of his name (as any "John Smith" would fail this test as well).

Keep it: The article is generally interesting and thought-provoking, well-written in an encyclopedic style, and of potential relevance to a fairly large number of Wikipedia readers. --Andrew Goldsweig 16:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per Goldsweig. Coverage by newspapers on three continents adds up to a fair bit of notability. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 21:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per failing WP:MUSIC and clearly failing the Google test. Prolog 15:44, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• In multiple ways, article subject clearly PASSES WP:MUSIC: sufficient exposure in radio/podcast, profiled in BBC special, and new genre of "political rap." Google problem due to name commonality; better results with name "antithesis rapper." --216.165.126.107 18:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. I don't think the press mentions of him are sufficient to pass WP:BIO. Mangojuice^talk 13:43, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.