Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salient (magazine)

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The result of the debate was merge. ugen64 22:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Salient (magazine)

It's a student newspaper, of the sort every university has at least one of. Not particularly notable. Radiant_* 11:03, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete unless notability can be established. P Ingerson 13:30, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep or merge. Notability is subjective and not a requirement for inclusion. --GRider\^talk 18:33, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • That's patently false, and you know it. Articles which are both long and of good quality get the thumbs up from me, but this is neither. No evidence of historical significance on anything more than students' union scale (there - is that less subjective enough for you?). Merge summary of useful information (not editors - this change is too frequent) and redirect to Victoria University of Wellington. Chris 20:21, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep or merge, as above. Kappa 19:52, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, university newspapers are not that inherently noteworthy. Megan1967 00:02, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Merge into the University article. RickK 00:09, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge the general info into Victoria University of Wellington, delete the gossipy personnel stuff. --Calton | Talk 03:57, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Merge the information inspecific to time into the Victoria University of Wellington article. Delete the references to current contributors and the like. If it's even worth mentioning at all it's because it's been around since 1941, which is a respectable age for a student publication, not because of its current staff, insignificant information that will date quickly. -R. fiend 04:03, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Merge agree with R. fiend. – flamurai (t) 19:48, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep Salient is a notable student magazine. it has been nominated for the Qantas media awards which are usually reserved for mainstream media. It has been an influntial magazine throughout its history. The article on Critical Critic should go (and as the person who created it, I think I talk with some authority). Prehaps creating a new article for VUWSA (Victoria University of Wellington Students Association) with a section on Salient would be a smart move. VUWSA funds Salient and is its main base. VUWSA is also highly influential and has a proud history (they even nought a tank for the Viet Cong, so they might technically be a terrorist organisation). So keep it, or merge into a VUWSA article. --Gregstephens 04:51, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• A very weak keep. This should be honed down to the basics, plus a link. Possibly move to Salient (periodical) and mention other periodicals called "The Salient", such as The Harvard Salient. --Woggly 07:44, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Half keep, I believe they say. May be persuaded to upgrade this to a three quarters keep. —RaD Man (talk) 00:38, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've mentioned some reasons above. But Salient is the longest serving student magazine in New Zealand, it is the most known, it has regularly broken news items which other news sources have had to feed from, it has been nominated for mainstream awards and constantly clears out the ASPA awards (Aotearoa Student Press Association). It has press gallery reporters for the New Zealand House of Representatives. In all, it is actually a reasonably important journal. I should add I have a bias towards it as a columnist (From the Left). The best solution in my mind would be to create a Victoria University of Wellington Students Association article and to put the info into that/ --Gregstephens 08:55, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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