Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sabrina Online

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep per consensus. Yuser31415 (Editor review two!) 05:49, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sabrina Online

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Does not meet WP:WEB guidelines for notability.

• The content itself has not been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself.
• The website or content has not won a notable independent award from either a publication or organisation.
• The content is not distributed via a medium which is both well known and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster.

- Francis Tyers · 20:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per my own nomination. - Francis Tyers · 20:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Apparently the comic was regularly published in the Amiga Format (which is notable enough to have its own article), as seen in the tables of content available at [1]. The comic’s website mentions other publications, but those don’t seem quite so notable. There is a detailed (i. e. non-trivial) review on Comixpedia (not the wiki). I think this does establish notability. —xyzzy_n 20:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The comic has won the 2001 Web Cartoonist Choice Award for Best Romantic Comic[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Web_Cartoonist%27s_Choice_Awards#Best_Romantic_Comic] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kchishol1970 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC). Furthermore, the strip's been a recurring nominee for the award's Outstanding Anthropomorphic Comic --kchishol1970 13:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep for publishing in a regular magazine and the award above. (as an aside, can we try to avoid nominating groups of furry articles/comics all at once? I know a lot of them are necessary, but I'm getting tired of trying to tone down the "Wikipedia conspiracy against furries" discussions that break out. =P ) Tony Fox (arf!) 21:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
• KEEP! this article should be kept I really like it and think that it is truthful! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bantha child (talk • contribs) 22:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC).
  • Please see WP:ILIKEIT on why it is useless to post this kind of comment. —xyzzy_n 23:00, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Not only is Eric Schwartz one of the premiere A-list artists in furry fandom (his creation Amy the Squirrel, who also appears in this comic, was once an widely known (albeit unofficial) spokesmascot for Amiga in their final years), but also, as stated above, it has won awards and is printed in mediums other than the website. The vast majorities of the furry and webcomic fandoms are aware of this comic. I think that qualifies as notable. - EmiOfBrie 00:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Webcomics-related deletions. -- SkierRMH 02:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, doesn't meet our notability or verifiablity standards. With no decent references, the article is all original research and personal point of view. -- Dragonfiend 04:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep, Part of what makes Sabrina Online notable is that it has created a universe in which many other authors have created stories and comics. In addition to the previously posted more traditional measures of notability, having defined a sub-genre certainly seems to denote notability to me. TGIF 10:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep You're kidding, right? Aside from being one of the THE furry webcomics, it has won the 2001 Cartoonist's Choice Award (Best Romantic Comic) and has been nominated in 2002 (Best Anthropomorphic Comic), 2003 (Outstanding Romantic Comic) and 2004 (Outstanding Anthropomorphic Comic). As per WP:WEB (which is already hostile towards webcomics in my eyes), this IS an indicator for notability (won one award, nominated in multiple years). --Sid 3050 21:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: I’ve put the award stuff and the Amiga Format into the article. Would those who were in favour of deleting the article please take another look? —xyzzy_n 22:15, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Seems very notable in its field. User:Dimadick

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.