Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Danford

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The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 21:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ryan Danford

Ryan Danford (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

As per a previous AfD, I am resubmitting this. This article fails WP:BIO and is related to Major League Gaming. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 22:04, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - As per nom --Bryson 22:06, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete fails WP:BIO - all of these need to disappear. SkierRMH,22:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Previously a member of the number one Halo 2 team in the world. Passes WP:BIO by playing at the absolute highest level of his sport- and I'd considered getting paid a quarter of a million bucks to play video games is rather notable in its own right. -- Kicking222 03:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete NN person. I love video games, but they are NOT a sports (so that argument about playing at the highest level goes out the window). TJ Spyke 05:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment But chess is a sport. So is curling. To each his own, I suppose, but that's not a reason that he isn't notable. Charlie 07:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Chess a sport? Hahahaha, thanks for the laugh. Curling possible, but not chess. TJ Spyke 07:40, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
      • You can laugh all you want: It has been proposed as an Olympic sport several times. Charlie 07:49, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
        • Proposed, it would never happen. Besides, those idiots think that synchronized swimming is a sport and don't have football in. TJ Spyke 22:06, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
          • Football actually is in the Olympics.. The 2004 football competition was won by Argentina. See Football at the Summer Olympics. -- DJiTH 22:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Whether or not video gaming is a sport is irrelevant, since WP:BIO also recognizes people who are playing at the highest level in "other competitive activities"; presumably that's how Wikipedia is allowed to have articles on Garry Kasparov, Phil Ivey, etc. P4k 00:29, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Spyke. Edison 18:52, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Ryan Danford has been featured on MLG's Pro Circuit on USA Network. MLG is a very significant league - it offers the most prize money for its permanant games and has broadcasted shows on USA Network featuring every single player and team on the list. Most if not all players have had articles written about them in their local newspaper. EGM magazine - the most popular gaming magazine (you can get it in any of your local pharmacy stores) regularly feature MLG and its best teams and players. Wall Street Journal published an article about the first contract deal MLG offered to its top gamers.
• Delete Subject has never appeared in any major international competition, nor made any notable achievements and therefore fails WP:BIO. For clarification regarding e-Sports, view e-Sports and 2006 e-Sports World Champions -- DJiTH 22:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water.... First, whether or not gaming is a sport, the gamers are still competitors of the highest level, and Saiyan was a member of Final Boss, the #1 team and the most media-saturated and notable. The team got a $1,000,000 contract to play games, so I would say they'd have to be the top competitors. They're on TV, they're mentioned on virtually every gaming site on the web, and there are more than enough sources to make this a good article. (In fact, I am trying to start a WikiProject:Pro Gaming in order to make these the good articles they can be, here's a link to the proposal for anyone interested: [1]) Here's some sources to build an article from:
  
  Interview with Ryan "Saiyan" Danford [2], probably the 10th separate link I've found referring to their contract [3], an interview with NBA star Gilbert Arenas who signed them for 1 mil (he mentions Ryan) [4], a link discussing his involvement in the World Gaming Championships (he and his partner were beaten by Ogre 1 and 2) [5], and you can probably find more abut him in any link I gave for Final Boss, Tom Ryan, or Dan Ryan on their AfD's in you still need more links. Again, this is about whether or not they have enough sources, and meet WP:BIO, which he does by being a top competitor (it doesn't say athlete, but competitor, making the sport argument completely moot). I've feel that I've proven notability enough over all these articles to prove that they can become good, useful articles, and like I said, I'm committing to improving them and finding others to help improve them through a new WikiProject. J0lt C0la 23:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Ryan Danford is a top competitor. I'm not going to repeat the logical argument above by J0lt C0la - Stinkman 22:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
• keep please this person does meet bio and is notable by verifiable sources Yuckfoo 02:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, professional gamers with media coverage appear notable to me. --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 21:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.