Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ruaidhri Conroy

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. --Luigi30 (Ταλκ το mε) 14:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ruaidhri Conroy

• Delete - This article was listed for speedy deletion as nonsense. I don't think it qualifies but I believe the subject is not notable enought for inclusion. I have moved it here for discussion. -Tεxτurε 22:02, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep (rewrite) - I tagged it as nonsense because it is (was) an obvious dupe of Fair City Mainstay and Ruadhri Conroy, all created/contributed to by the same editor, RoryRules2. Moreover, it was a recreation of Rory Conroy. The previous AfD is here. (Result was DELETE.) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rory Conroy. I have also tagged the page for copyvio for lifting some of the bio verbatim from IMDb. This probably won't be another WP:HEY effort, but I've emailed both IMDb and Ruaidrhi's management company requesting clarification. -- Robocoder 00:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I've added to MartinRe's Ruaidhri Conroy/Temp -- Robocoder 19:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - I am one of the main contributors to this page. Ruaidhri Conroy is a well known actor in Ireland, specifically for his role in Fair City as Chris Aherne. The other pages may be duplicates, but my vote is to keep this as the original. -- Dr.Boogins 22:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Question - is RoryRules2 your sockpuppet? -- Robocoder 22:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Question - What does that mean, and how does it affect this page? -- Dr.Boogins 23:02, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Answer - just a point of clarification; the page history says RoryRules2 made the edits, yet you laid claim to being the main contributor. -- Robocoder 23:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Note - Rory Rules copied this page (Ruaidhri Conroy) from my page Ruadhri Conroy. It seems I mispelt the name, but RoryRules2 cleared this up by creating a new page using the data from the orignal page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Ruadhri_Conroy

-- Dr.Boogins 23:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• keep / bizarre - Isn't it funny how he got invited to the Oscars (from viewing the link on the page), but he cannot get a page here! Unless that was a fake show from a link to a "fake" rte site. Keep this page.-- IrishRay 22:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
  • This user has inserted Image:DavidMcWilliams.jpg into David McWilliams a picture incidentially uploaded by User:Dr.Boogins (the picture is not the famous Irish economist and broadcaster). Is this a sockpuppet account, its just a little supicious especially when they have less than ten edits and start voting? Djegan 11:53, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep seems to have been in a long-running serial for a while, but that is about as far as it goes in terms of verifiable significance. The article is in pressing need of cleanup, it seems to be written entirely by fans. Just zis Guy you know? 08:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - This page probably does need to be reviewed / rewritten, but my vote is to keep the page. -- RoryRules2 15:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

• Not that you're a fan or anything. Just zis Guy you know? 19:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
• - I'm not, no.-- RoryRules2 21:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete not notable. Djegan 10:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, but rewrite from scratch (or delete without prejudice on recreation)Current article has too many problems with potential copycios, and lack of references, so better to start from scrath and build up. Does seem to be notable enough, the BBC mentioned his oscar flight problems [1], for example. Question, shouldn't this article (if kept) be at Rúaidhrí Conroy with redirects from Ruaidhri/Rory? Regards, MartinRe 11:08, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I've done a lot of web searching, and can find references for Rory Conroy (Fair city) and for Ruaidhri Conroy (Into the West/Six Shooter/Oscar flight problem) but cannot find any reference that shows that the two people are the same person, the only connection is the similar name and same year of birth on IMDB (IMBD for Ruaudhri / IMBD for Rory) If kept, WP:V will need to be rigorously enforced to not only ensure that the facts are correct, but that they are verifably about the correct person. MartinRe 15:13, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment In the idea of {{sofixit}} I have created (without predjudice) a temporary sub page (linked from the copyvio template on the main page). which I hope is a stub enough for the time being. Obviously if the afd gets closed as 'delete', please remove that page also. Regards, MartinRe 16:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep - Strong but rewrite from scratch Frelke 11:45, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, but rewrite from scratch as per Martin. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 09:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep (notable) but stub (due to copyright violation). --Craig Stuntz 12:56, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep but rewrite from scratch. I'm pretty sure Rory Conroy of Fair City and Ruaidhri Conroy of Six Shooter are not the same person, but I can't be certain. The latter is certainly notable, there was a full-page interview with him in a national newspaper just this weekend (The Sunday Tribune I think) however this article doesn't seem to cover any of the notable aspects of his career. --Ryano 15:25, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I'd have to agree that these are different people. Markham Froggatt does not list "Fair City" among Ruaidhri's credits (though a single episode of Kavanagh QC does merit a mention). Similarly, no connection is made on RTÉ in these articles: [2][3]-- Robocoder 21:17, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Question I see the temporary page for the film star Ruaidhri Conroy, but what about his namesake, Rory Conroy from Fair City etc. Can we create another temp file to build on for Rory Conroy (Fair City)? -- Dr.Boogins 21:12, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Answer If you can write a neutral, well sourced article on Rory Conroy with verified claims to notibilty, then it's possible the currently protected article would be unprotected to allow it to go there. However, it may be better to simply add him as a section under Fair City for the moment. The requirements of being neutral, well sourced and verifable, still apply, but slightly less claim of notibility is required than for a stand alone article. Regards, MartinRe 19:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.