Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rosetta Stoned

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and redirect. Make sure that it gets a mention on the artiste page. :) — Nearly Headless Nick ^{C} 15:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rosetta Stoned

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This is not a notable song (not a single, does not receive radio play), and the page has been deleted before. The entirety of the article is original research. –King Bee ^{(T • C)} 14:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 09:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
• Very weak delete. Well, mostly it's certainly not original research - the list of cultural references is taken straight from the lyrics. The only bit that might contravene WP:OR is the "..the song is thought to be..." part, but OTOH that's pretty obvious from the lyrics. So the remaining question is "is it a notable song?". Yep, it wasn't a single; Yep, it doesn't receive radio play (mind you, it's 11 minutes long), hmm, difficult. (Google - "Rosetta Stoned"+Tool = 92,000 Ghits.) EliminatorJR ^Talk 22:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:N as applied at WP:BAND - and I'm a huge Tool fan too, just this song is not notable and even if it did receive radio play or was released somewhere, it would not become so. This is also the case with nearly the entire Tool song category. Someone needs to talk to the project guys about what WP:N means with regard to songs. Pretty much the only way a Tool song could become notable is to win a Grammy, which applies to Ænema and Schism. Orderinchaos78 16:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Longest song on album, and has a very creative use of Maynard's vocals. WereWolf 02:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment Neither appears to qualify it as notable under Wikipedia guidelines. Different, yes, interesting, yes, but notability means it has "been the subject of secondary sources [and] such sources must be reliable, independent of the subject and independent of each other." Until it wins a Grammy or takes an unexpected turn into pop culture such as Dandy Warhols "Bohemian Like You" did, it probably fails WP:N. Furthermore, due to the lack of secondary coverage of it, its current incarnation appears to fail WP:ATT on original research grounds. Orderinchaos78 12:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete and Merge to the 10,000 Days album. However I can't see anything in the present article which is in any way verifiable other than maybe its length. Note WP:CSB issue with parental advisory sticker, it did have in countries other than the US I believe. DanielT5 12:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.