Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Vobes
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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[edit] Richard Vobes
Contested WP:PROD, sending here for discussion. Original PROD rationale is here. Procedural nom, no opinion. Chick Bowen 17:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Weak Delete - all external links are to sites affiliated with Vobes; no evidence of multiple non-trivial coverage in third-party sources to establish notability per WP:BIO. Also possible issues with WP:COI as per prod rationale. Delete unless sourced by end of this AfD. Walton Vivat Regina! 18:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete , unsourced and unreferenced. If it changes by end of this AfD change to Keep AlfPhotoman 20:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep The original PROD says that the article was created by Richard Vobes himself for commercial gain. This is clearly not the case as the article was not created by Richard. The article contains information about Richard's contribution to podcasting. This is further supported by his contribution to Podcast User Magazine. Besides, he is quite well known in the Podcasting industry. Hohohob 22:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep. I doubt the BBC is affiliated with Vobes and their profiling him as an example of UK podcasting is significant. However, I'd prefer more than one source. Nuttah68 10:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Richard has been an extremely influential member of the podcasting community, has won awards for his "soundseeing tours" in the vobes.com show and has been part of the "audio blog" genre, via the nakeenglishman.co.uk. He has inspired many other peiople to podcast (including myself) and provides uniqueu content, which is consumed worldwide. All in all Richard has created over 1,000 prodcasts, which is more than the "podfather" himself, Mr Adam Curry. To consider "deleting" Richard's contribution would be like proving George Orwell correct. Ignore the doublethink: Keep the Vobe!pcogle 09:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Weak Delete This page does seem rather like a self serving promotion. Since the original Wiki article was created, he has strayed from his original show concept which endured a small (as claimed) but loyal following and he never discusses exact listener figures. It's not apparent how he has been any sort of pioneer in anything watershed; the show is still similar to '70's radio morning shows. Many, many others have inspired others to become podcasters -- not just Vobes. Judging from the same contributors emails being constantly read, apparently the listener base remains stagnant.To echo an earlier commenter, where are the references and sources? BIGGUY 22:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC) note - edited to remove subjective qualitative statements
- Keep. Richard Vobes provides listeners a window into English versus American culture, and therefore provides a valuable cross-cultural exchange which trancends any debate as to his value as a broadcaster. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.134.164.37 (talk) 19:32, 6 March 2007 (UTC).Vobes is a pioneer in podcasting and audio blogging - deleting him is deleting history - do not let it happen
- Keep. Richard Vobes can justifably be seen as notable in that he has created children's Television programmes and produced his long running, regular, podcast. Earlier versions of the Wiki were certainly self-publicising but this situation has since improved. Subjective opinion as to the quality of his work do not add to this discussion. PRichards14 11:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.