Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Albrecht

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, after discounting 'votes' from anonymous IPs (who could be from numerous people or one), and with regard to the good research done on the nature of the external links.

It would be nice if 'vote tampering' was simply reverted on sight (watchlist AfDs, please). Alerting me of it at the end does not help much, because there's no way I can find out everything that was changed and repair the damage at this late stage. Some random diff-clicking made me notice that Dlyons' withdrawal of his 'keep' argument was reverted by an IP [1], and this was never reverted. I note that purely as an example for those reviewing this discussion, as I repeat that I can't be expected to find every instance where this might have happened. --Sam Blanning(talk) 13:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Richard Albrecht

Note to closing editor - there has been vote tampering by anons below - please check History. Dlyons493 Talk 08:45, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion Vanity page of low quality and no notability. If you look more closely, the cited "publications" are mainly his blog and links to essay mills. A notable academic should have lots of peer-reviewed publications, but I can't see any. The links to this page are also vanity, check out Talk:Lewis A. Coser. Leibniz 18:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


  • Comment Some people can read. Some cannot. Those wo can will realize that all of that three links placed on scholarly texts in English Dr Richard Albrecht published within the last fifteen years (1991; 2001; 2006)

are definetely neither academic junk nor scholarly mill, but the very contrary, and that is why that bizarre policy Mr. Leibniz is running at en.wikipedia.org - not as a long-distance runner but as a runners amok - should be ended. Subito. M. Eser, Aug. 22, 2006 — Possible single purpose account: 80.136.121.85 (talk • contribs) has made little or no other contributions outside this topic.

Addition: I've also nominated Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reinhard Opitz for quality reasons. There seem to be some funny issues with repeated copyvio of Albrecht's essays from an essay mill by anonymous editors on that page. Leibniz 14:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - Richard Albrecht author gets a thousand googles and Richard Albrecht psychologist gets another 500. That's enough for me on an academic, they usually don't generate a ton of fan site refs. And he's cited from other sources. Wjhonson 19:00, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
What? Google gives links to the WP article first, and then lots to other people with similar names. Leibniz 19:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
That's not how I see it. What I see is "Richard Albrecht" psychologist giving 500 hits on this particular guy, not someone else. Wjhonson 19:16, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Even if you use quotation marks, those links that are actually relevant to the guy come to a large extent from essays by him at places like grin.com. In case it is not obvious, that is not a refereed publication at all, but one of those places where students can sell essays and term papers to other students. Leibniz 23:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak delete per nom. At least, on the current article version, there is nothing that indicates notability. Han-Kwang 19:04, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete — Vanityfest; some but not all of the google refs are him; article contains no assertions of notability from reliable sources (reviews, etc.) of the significance/notability of his work. JChap2007 22:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep The link to the German National Library seems pretty conclusive to me. Dlyons493 Talk 12:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Conclusive? Have you even looked at them? It is print-on-demand and stuff like that. Leibniz 18:00, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
No, of course I haven't looked at them - why would I do that when I could could just make a random comment :-) Which ones specifically do you feel are print-on-demand ? Dlyons493 Talk 18:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Here's one: [2]. Says "Print-on-demand-Version des unabhängigen Online-Magazins für Menschen- und Bürgerrechte, rechtskultur.de", so it is basically a print-out of his blog. Leibniz 18:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough - Verl. für Zukunftsforschung is also. Aachen : Shaker and Carl-Zuckmayer-Geslooked OK. Also Der Kreisauer Kreis, Der militante Sozialdemokrat etc Dlyons493 Talk 18:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
And I thought you were the scourge of the vanity presses... Shaker is the least dodgy one, and it specializes in cheaply printing theses. Leibniz 18:34, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Vanity page. I see no evidence that the subject passes WP:PROF Pathlessdesert 15:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Good point. I should have mentioned the criteria in WP:PROF. I forgot to do so, as he is not a "Prof": never got tenure anywhere, no present academic affiliation. No cigar for this guy, anon sock- and meatpuppetry notwithstanding. Leibniz 10:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep: The Leibniz-spoors, Aug. 19, 2006, show a personal annihilation policy of Mr. Leibniz against these three entries: Wolfgang Abendroth, Richard Albrecht, and Reinhard Opitz - all of them German social scientist & left-wing scholars. M. Falke, Aug. 20, 2006
  • Comment - This is definately not a vanity page. This page was created by a dozen editors over a period of time. So that argument doesn't hold any power. Wjhonson 23:05, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep: :Dr Albrecht is a serious German scholar, author, and editor see also German section, which shows publication of books, — Possible single purpose account: 158.38.51.111 (talk • contribs) has made little or no other contributions outside this topic.
  • Comment. The German section, so helpfully pointed out by the anon vote-tampering meatpuppet above, will tell you that Albrecht was fined 450 Euros for libel on his "independent on-line journal", ie blog. They might well sue Wikipedia for linking to that stuff as endorsement. Leibniz 11:12, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. That argument is specious. A link as "endorsement" of a crime, is no more a valid argument, then linking to a prisoner's blog. It's a news article, pure and simple. You don't get sued for reporting the news. Wjhonson 17:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. In case someone still wants to write something (but it's not a sock count), the criteria for academic notability from WP:PROF (failing any prestigious appointments or notable student) are:
The person is regarded as a significant expert in their area by independent sources.
The person is regarded as an important figure by those in the same field.
The person has published a significant and well-known academic work.
The person's collective body of work is significant and well-known.

Please note that it does not say: has written a book, has a blog, or anything like that. Nothing that has been mentioned in the discussion comes even close to establishing any of these criteria. Leibniz 21:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

To closing editor, it appears to me that Leibniz has some particular axe to grind on some of these deletions. The article states this man has published eighteen books (although not naming them all). That is sufficient notability. I think this deletion is in bad faith. I just don't have the time to investigate what's really going on here, but my gut tells me something peculiar. Wjhonson 22:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


  • Comment To Whom It May Concern, including The Closing Editors, about the truth, the only truth, and nothing but the very truth. The facts can be verified by everybody, he or she, wikipedian, ordinary people or whosoever: Leibniz manipulated in a way which verifies me first posting: “The Leibniz-spoors, Aug. 19, 2006, show a personal annihilation policy of Mr. Leibniz against these three entries: Wolfgang Abendroth, Richard Albrecht, and Reinhard Opitz - all of them German social scientist & left-wing scholars. M. Falke, Aug. 20, 2006”.

– I had a look on the “history” of the very method Leibniz systematically did apply in the “case” of Dr Richard Albrecht the last three days since he nominated Dr A. for deletion (Aug. 19, 207, 18:32)[1]: for example Leibniz not only neglected the wikipedia principle according to “Living People” like Dr. A. (who, as far as I know, is still alive): “potentially libellous material must be removed immediately”, but also any rational rule of any “open debate” run publicly and expressed in another wikipedia-principle according to the deletion process. Moreover, whenever read thoroughly, the Leibnitz-“history” from Aug, 19, 2006, to Aug, 22, 2006, clearly and without any doubt demonstrates that this man is manipulating as his best: what Leibnitz stigmatized as essay mill when characterizing scholarly texts of Dr A. on Aug. 20, 2006, 14:23, the next days got what sociologists name "self-fulfilling prophecy” (Robert K. Merton): prominent en.wikipedia-member Leibniz himself - and nobody else - defined what he had proclaimed as such (Aug. 22, 2006). Finally, for detecting Leibniz´ numerous manipulations needs some time, Leibniz declared, for reasons, Dr. A.s “nomination” for deletion as an urgent case, thinking that after Dr. A´s entry will be wiped out nobody will be interested in this individual “case”, and what he, Leibniz, really did will be hidden forever. - M. Falke, Aug. 23, 2006

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  • Commentary - Keep Albrecht. Delete Leibniz


Somebody self-naming after the German philosopher Leibniz was at work 11:50, 21 August 2006. Under the label "ridiculous self-promotion and spam link to essay mill" this man deleted a passage in the Friedrich Engels entry on "The General & His Shadow". The passage Leibniz deleted runs as follows:

"In remembrance of the historical democratic and socialist movements in Germany in 1848/1849, the German social psychologist Richard Albrecht read a public lecture in Cologne (Rhineland), 150 years later in 1988, on the specific role Frederick Engels played as an anti-Prussian partisan and counterpart of the Prussian police agent Dr. Wilhelm Stieber (alias Schmidt). This scholarly piece first appeared in print in 2000 (Almanach der Varnhagen-Gesellschaft, ed. Dr. Nikolaus Gatter, vol. 1 (2000), 197-208, Berlin: Verlag Arno Spitz ISBN 3-8305-0025-4; but it became available online free of charge in 2004. It gives insights into the personality of Frederick Engels (nicknamed "the general") before, during and after his emigration (first to Basel in Switzerland, then to Manchester): see Richard Albrecht, "Gegenspieler - Der General und sein Schatten: Engels, Stieber & die preußische Reaktion 1851/52. Historischer Bericht zum ersten Kommunistenprozeß zu Köln" [Counterparts - The General and His Shadow: Engels, Stieber & the Prussian Reactionary Forces, 1851/52. Another look at the first "Colonial Communist Trial"] [[3]]."

Who so ever will read this documentary essay written by an experienced German author, e.g. the online-version (I did, and gave the actual link), will, as a matter of fact, ascertain that this piece, originally a public lecture, in 1998, published in 2000 (printed, in an anthology which appeared at Arno Spitz, Berlin), and 2004 (as published online by GRIN Verlag für akademische Texte, Munich) is by no means any "essay mill" in the definition Leibnitz coined out when, yesterday, posting five times (starting 13:39, and ending top 20:25): "a business, usually online, which dishonestly sells essays and other forms of homework assignments to students who are incapable or unwilling to do it themselves"), but is a legitime scholarly publication completely free of charge.

Friedrich Engels himself once stated: "The proof of the pudding is in the eating", and that´s why I do hope that relevant en.wikipedia.org-admins will, as soon as possible, stop future vandal acts of Mr. Leibniz as a chap who indeed, the last days, was running amok when executing his personal policy of annihilating Richard Albrecht and other still living German left-wing scholars and civil right figures. -M. Falke, Aug. 23, 2006


  • Beware of pickpockets, tricksters, and academic swindlers, whether they may have got a Ph.D. or not, name themselves today Leibniz or Keks [[4]]], tomorrow Nietzsche or Bahlsen. Moreover, please, look at [[5]], [[6]], and tell me whether this man should be a representative of the en-wikipedia-community any longer, or not; su, ma.beauty1atgmx.net 80.136.127.41 22:01, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I Personally don't think that the the article needsw to be deleted, but it should be re-written as a more neutral article, since the current one seems to just be pro-Albrecht.-GDJC

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