Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/References to Ghostbusters

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 20:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References to Ghostbusters

References to Ghostbusters (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) - (View log)

Trivia with lack of sources to verify claims. ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 17:19, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - Smells like original research to me. Especially without sources to verify the contents or the article. Kyra_~(talk) 18:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
• DeleteNeutral/comment - As source you could use Special:Whatlinkshere/Ghostbuster. But it seems that there is always different reference to Ghostbusters as listed in the AfD article. Cate | _Talk 14:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC) . WP:OR. Cate | _Talk 10:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Why in the world would we use ourselves as a source? I know Mary Poppins. Trust me, because I said it somewhere! We need reliable sources (read: not Wikipedia) because we have no assurances against WP:NOR otherwise. ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 21:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Hmm. The article is about references, so IMHO we can use what links here (and movies are not obscure or rare references). Do we need references to references to references? (references (external sources) to references (to other movies) to references (to gostbuster)). Anyway what links here give other results as the article, so it is not a point for this AfD discussion. Cate | _Talk 10:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep the original sources are sufficient. --Lasttan 18:34, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  • What sources? Please fine me a reliable source that says Danny Phantom rips off Ghostbusters. ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 21:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - maybe not significant enough to find a home in the movie's page, but relevant to give an idea of the movie's popularity and impact. Lorenzo80 21:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  • This doesn't touch on my criticism. Where are the sources? ' ^{(Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!)} 21:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, W.marsh 21:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as fancruft. If anything is significant, it should be merged into Ghostbusters in the relevant section. This is really not what WP is for. The Rambling Man 22:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
• Merge back into Ghostbusters after trimming down a lot. It's true that some of it is OR but much of it is not - i.e. the reference for the fact that Ray Stantz says "Who ya gonna call? ...Somebody else." in Casper is the movie itself - we shouldn't need another source quoting the movie to prove that the quote happens in the movie. Plymouths 22:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - I am feeling some deja vu - we just dealt with an article called "Ghostbusters Trivia" a couple of weeks ago... -Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 08:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• Merge - I agree with Plymouths on this one - trim it down, keep a few references... It looks like the biggest problem is the sheer number of TV/cartoon appearances, which are verifiable if and only if someone decides to find and watch EVERY episode mentioned. Personally, if it's possible to find a number of print sources (magazines, books, articles, whatever) with specific page numbers added, it might be easier to confirm references. Otherwise we might need to start asking for series names, episode names, episode numbers, timecodes... :) --JohnDBuell 09:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete pure OR with no sources and based on authors opinion rather than fact. As an example is the statement 'Dr. Venture is seen wearing a Proton-Pack-Like backpack while getting off of the X-1 in the start of the episode' where the author is guessing. Nuttah68 13:30, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
• Merge sourced portions selectively into Ghostbusters as a section "Cultural References". Ghostbusters inspired numerous references in popular culture, and some of these need documentation in the main article. Such documentation could easily draw from this article. Prune out the references which consist entirely of original research and weasel words, such as "Luigi's Mansion ... is said to have been inspired partly by Ghostbusters". Leave only the ones with unmistakable references to Ghostbusters, such as the direct use of lines from the movie ("Who you gonna call?", "Don't cross the streams", "ain't afraid of no ghost"), or the references to "keymaster", "gatekeeper", and Zool/Zuul/XUL. Add specific episode references, not just "an episode of". This article needs help, not deletion. To aid in the merge, I would suggest putting a merge template at the top of References to Ghostbusters, but including a specific note in the template suggesting the need for selective merging. --Josh Triplett 07:21, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unless sourced... Addhoc 10:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.