Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/References about Haj Amin al-Husseini’s anti-semitism

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete and merge. The current page is a fork, and not a likely search term, so it is not appropiate to retain it even as a redirect. The material may have a place in the parent article. To avoid any GFDL issues, this will be moved to a subpage Amin al-Husseini/anti-semitism (temporary). If and when the editors at Amin al-Husseini decide to incorporate this material, then decisions can be made regarding how to preserve the licence. If the consensus there is not to merge this material, the page can be deleted by leaving a note on my (or probably any other) adminstrator's talk.
brenneman^{T}{L} 03:41, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References about Haj Amin al-Husseini’s anti-semitism

Delete. This page is a content fork from Amin al-Husseini. The material (if determined to be NPOV in the ongoing moderation on the source page) belongs on the source page, and not on this fork. cmh 20:46, 28 February 2006 (UTC)~

Hello. {s}Keep{/s}. This article has been introduced less than 2 hours ago (note I never met Cmh before). I tried to discuss with him but he doesn't agree to follow process of discussion and decided to ask for the deletion of this article. Here is why it has been created :

1. As explained on the talk page of the article about Haj Amin al-Husseini, this article about him is already well written and npov. Nevertheless there is one point that is not well sourced and that is debated. I chose to gather additionnal information about that in another article and only refers this clearly in the main article. I don't understand why Cmh didn't read this.
2. Please look at the article. You can see it is extremely well sourced and referenced [1]. It deals the topic with a "cold" neutral point of view. Only the title is discussed [2] and in less than 2 hours, it is hard to discuss even if I think the title is good. Christophe Greffe 20:56, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

• Obvious delete. If this wasn't VfD'd I would have speed-deleted it. Christophe, move this to your private name-space, it is not a proper article topic. --Zero 22:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

The worst possibility would be to merge it with the current article, since almost none of it is appropriate. --Zero 22:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - this is an inappropriate fork with a POV title. Whether or not the subject was anti-semitic should be discussed on the page about the subject. Green Giant 23:47, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
• If the content's both size and quality grows into an article, rename into neutral Amin al-Husayni and anti-Semitism, otherwise merge either into Amin al-Husayni or Arabs and anti-Semitism or Islam and anti-Semitism. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 00:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
• rename and merge into Amin al-Husayni per Humus sapiens Zeq 07:11, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

• I wanted to treat this information an equivalent way as : List of Israeli military operation in the 1948 Arab-Israeli war or List of villages depopulated during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war in 1948 Arab-Israeli war. It is referred in the main article and the informatin is gathered another way not to put too much data in the main article. Would a solution be to rename this "Haj Amin al Husseini and antisetism" and to make reference to this list of quotes from the main article ? Christophe Greffe 08:28, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

• Rename, preferably merge, as per Humus. -- Heptor _talk 14:15, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. POV fork; will no doubt inspire many others, e.g. references about George Bush's idiocy; references about Dick Cheney's warmongering; references about Bill Clinton's narcissism etc., etc. ad nauseam. --Ian Pitchford 15:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

• I don't agree with this comment. The parallelism is of course not appropriate. Anti-semitism of Haj Amin Al-Husseini is in the article accredited by several historians and professors while your comparaison concern ad hominem attack against a personnality (and me). Christophe Greffe 15:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

• Merge with Haj Amin al-Husseini.--Sean Black ^(talk) 21:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, just delete. Spilled from current war on the main article. Amin al-Husseini needs arbitration, not siblings created elsewhere. Pavel Vozenilek 01:04, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

That could be deduced from the appearence but as explained I wrote this far before the dispute started, more than 6 weeks ago. I was not involved in the dispute until I published this article Christophe Greffe 19:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

• rename or merge After thinking about this, I change my vote that way. Christophe Greffe 19:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into the bio. Carlossuarez46 19:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge or delete, POV forking is not an approved way to handle content disagreements. Stifle 09:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

• That was not POV forking. As explained above and in the talk page. Christophe Greffe 12:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

• Merge per Sean Black. Pecher ^Talk 09:55, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge or move to Wikiquote. - FrancisTyers 10:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into the bio. -- Karl Meier 11:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - not a proper article; spawned from an ongoing discussion. --Cybbe 21:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

• That is not true. This is not spawned from an ongoing discussion as you are perfectly aware. I started to gather all these quotes 15 january ie more than 1 month before your discussion. As it can be proven here [3] Christophe Greffe 22:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.